I have been using DVD Remake for quite some time and I am loving it.

However, I have come across a problem with angles with a specific DVD (Samurai 7 Volume 4). First, some set up.

When I watch a series on DVD I remove the shows opening and ending credits for the middle episodes. Normally this is not a problem, even with different angles. Now, I come across this.

This one has got me stumped. If I go through DVD Remake to strip out the angles, ALL the angles are removed when I go through strip angles and then "keep this" instead of the single angle for a specific block. Then in the strip angles window the preview at the bottom is not the same as the block I hightlite at the top. This is problematic with the blocks that are in the screenshot. There are 4 angles.

ILVU 1 is the ending credits in english
ILVU 2 is the ending credits in japanese
ILVU 3 is the preview for the next episode in english
ILVU 4 is the preview for the next episode in japanese

I would like to somehow split up the block so that it is Angles 1 and 2 and a new block with angles 3 and 4. This way I could remove the unneeded credits and still keep the preview with both angles intact.

Is this possible with DVD Remake or am I going to need to use something cumbersome and unwieldly like IFOEdit?

This is the first time I see the ending credits and preview in one block. Does it actually play ILVU 1 then ILVU 3 for English? For Japanese, does it play ILVU 2, then ILVU 4? Normally, I would expect the preview to be on the next block which is what you're trying to do.

When you strip angles, it will strip for all blocks and keep only 1 angle, not for a specific block. I don't know any software that can strip a specific block, but this could be implemented in DvdReMake. That would be superb!

That's normal. The Domain Content View (top pane) shows only ILVU 1 by default.

DvdReMake cannot do this, not that I'm aware of. It maybe doable but I think it'll be complicated. Dimad may have an idea. You cannot do this with IfoEdit either.

It seems to follow the chapters. It will go from 12+13 (one block) then 14+15 (another block) 16+17 (last block). Then it will go back to chapter 18+19 which is in the first block along with chapters 12+13. Weird.


I was hoping there was a somewhat painless way to go around this. maybe I could use the replace block option if I save each and every chapter as a seperate outside source. That would be a pain.

Check for cell commands at cells 16+17 to see if it goes to cells 18+19 with an angle command change to 3 or 4.

Not sure how you want to do with Replace block, but you can also make use of "Insert block/program" and "Substitute block".

Do you want to keep only the English or Japanese version, or both? It's easier to keep one. From what you describe, I assume that if you select English version, it will play all angle 1 blocks, then angle 3 blocks. Correct? Are cells 1-11 multi-angle, similar to the screenshot, as well?

Suppose you keep the English version, another strategy, not elegant and requires temporary disk space, is to keep angle 3 separately. Save it in another folder. Then import it back as another project, say 2. For the original project, undo the 'strip angle' operation, and keep only angle 1. In project 2, copy the pgc (angle 3). Then go to project 1, select PGC 1 and "Append copied PGCs". Now it's time to do some clean up. Fix the menu navigation if required, and remove all angle commands, since this method results in 1 angle, and fix chapter references, etc.

If you want to keep both English and Japanese version, then put Japanese version as PGC 2. You have to fix the navigation afterward.

I did not see anything under cell commands, at least the cell commands tab when I selected the cell from the PGC1 list. Every block in the program chain does have this code though

Pre Commands

01 if (R[15] <= 1) goto line 3
02 if (R[15] >= 2) goto line 6
03 if (R[14] == 0) R[13] = 65
04 if (R[14] != 0) R[13] = R[14]
05 goto line 7
06 R[13] = R[14]
07 audio = R[15]: sub-picture = R[13]
08 if (R[15] <= R[1]) angle = 1
09 if (R[15] > R[1]) angle = 2

Post Commands

01 Call VMG PGC2 (resume cell 1)


I would like to keep both english and japanese actually. Each episode is laid out like this

01 Intro dialog (2 angles e/j)
02 Opening credits (2 angles e/j)
03 Episode name and number (2 angles e/j)
04 1/4 episode
05 1/4 episode
06 1/4 episode
07 1/4 episode
08 End credits ( 2 angles e/j)
09 Preview (2 angles e/j)
10 Character wrapup (2 angles e/j)

The problem starts with episode 2 of the disc as the Intro dialog is in the same block as the episode 1 End Credits. The Opening credits is in the same block as the episode 1 Preview. Episode 2's name and number is in the same block as episode 1 character wrapup.



That is going to be a little harder. As when I strip the angles every block that has 4 angles loses 3 so parts of the english version are lost as well. Thanks alot Bandai

Since you want to keep both Eng and Jap, it's going to be harder. You're not going to lose all 3 angles if you use the strategy I described. You will make it one angle, putting episode 2 right after episode 1. The only requirement is you will need lots of HD space. The key is to save project first before stripping so you can go back and start over, unless you increase the Undo history under Options menu depending on how much memory you have. The safest way is to save project.

It's hard to describe without knowing the structure of the dvd. If you feel technically challenged, load up the zipped ifos (I don't need bups) with the menus converted to still. Remove the audio from the menu also to reduce filesize. Upload the zip file somewhere. I'll take a look.

Would you specify which cells these belong to, something like:
08 End credits (2 angles e/j) - pgc1:c12,c13

Ok. The menu's with the IFO files are located here.

The information about the cell numbers is as follows

Episode 2

01 Intro dialog (2 angles e/j) PGC1: c18,c19
02 Opening credits (2 angles e/j) PGC1: c20,c21
03 Episode name and number (2 angles e/j) PGC1: c22,c23
04 1/4 episode PGC1: c24
05 1/4 episode PGC1: c25
06 1/4 episode PGC1: c26
07 1/4 episode PGC1: c27
08 End credits ( 2 angles e/j) PGC1: c28,c29
09 Preview (2 angles e/j) PGC1: c30,c31
10 Character wrapup (2 angles e/j) PGC1: c32,c33

Looks like I need to see the navpacks so I can view it like in the screenshot. Ifos alone won't show ILVU and MA blocks in DRM.

Download this Navpack extractor program http://www.sirq.fsnet.co.uk/cdrzone/...kExtractor.zip. Select the source folder and the destination folder. Extract. Zip the destination folder and upload. Use 7-zip to compress. It compresses better than Winrar and Winzip.

Ok, the file can be found here.

Thanks for your help.

This is what I gather from your description and files:
Now I understand why you say this:Frankly, I don't think it should display this way at VTS level. It should display in order of V/C with angle. So I think the Intro/Open credits/Name & Number should display as Blocks 4/5/6 with 2 ILVU 3/4 tabs. At Program Chains level, the blocks are in order of PGC/V/C. This way you'll be less confused.

If you go to the PGC view, Programs pane, it displays sequentially. IMO, Bandai should not authored the Intro/Open credits/Name & Num as ILVU 3/4, but as ILVU 1/2.

Ignore my strategy, b/c you were mentioning 4 angles, apparently they are not.

Since your intention is to remove the opening and ending credits, it's best you do it in the Programs pane, not in the Domain Content View. If you delete the block, you'll see the highlighted red error. Just delete the now unreferenced chapter and hide the respective buttons in the Chapters menu. If you hide the block, there probably be a very quick black screen upon playback. But please try both as I think there might be a bug when I'm doing a quick test. For episode 2, use Delete method. For episode 3, use Hide method. Test playback and let us know how it goes. You're probably the first reported to try delete/hide a portion of the interleaved multi-angle block. Users usually just strip angles. It's easier.

Dimad, I think you want to take a look at this navpack. The Domain Content view at VTS and Program Chains level do not display the blocks correctly after deleting and hiding ILVU/MA blocks. e.g., if you delete c12,13 block, the new c16,c17 block shows 4 ILVU tabs, which are incorrect. I see that the V/C numbering is not in order upon export, and this will reflect the VTS level view.

Well, Momma always did say I was special. Actually I just prefer the "no remote needed" approach when settling down to watch a show.

One thing I did notice was that after hiding the blocks or deleting the program + blocks the size of the individual program chain does not match up to the total size of the program chain at the top level for the video title set. A screenshot is here.

So which one has the right size upon export: PGC1 size or VTS level size?

How's the playback goes?

The larger of the sizes is the amount of data I get when I'm done exporting. It looks like DRM is not removing the hidden blocks as it should.

Playback seems to be ok in powerdvd 6 (I haven't burned it do disc yet)

Well, lets see if DRM Pro v 3.4 with this fix works

fix - problems with some multiangle disks after removing all but one angle

But you are not removing angle, so this fix does not apply.

Would you elaborate on this? There's a difference between remove/delete and hide/blank.

It seems either way I try, either deleting the program and block or hiding the blocks, the size of the dvd when exported is not changed.

Here is what I get when I try to delete program + block(s)



Here is what I get when I simply hide the block



With both methods the sizes do not add up and the exported disc is the same size as it was originally. In this case 5237.02 Mb

ok, it's just a size display problem, besides this
Playback is fine on dvd player?

On a software dvd player everything seems ok. The dvd plays as it should skipping the middle episodes opening and ending credits. But, the size of the resulting disc is only 5kb smaller than the original although I "removed" over 700 mb of video. Playing a VOB file from the resulting disc shows me that the video that should have been removed has not been although the dvd structure has been properly changed to allow for my desired playback.

I do not have a dual layer burner so I can not burn the resulting dvd (5.4gb) to play on a standalone dvd player.


I'm half way there.

I'm only interested in VTS 2. On the original, multi-select the VTS 2 vobs (do not include menu vob), what is the Size in bytes? Do the same for DRM VTS 2 vobs.

You do not do anything to the VTS 2, PGC2-4, correct?

You can just shrink or re-encode it.

For files VTS_02_1 through VTS_02_5

Original : 5,362,419,712 bytes
DRM Disk: 5,362,419,712 bytes


Right. The only things I'm changing in DRM are in VTS2 PGC1.

This does not look right. It's as if you have not removed or hid the blocks.

Yes, that is problematic. I wonder if this has anything to do with the incorrect way the dvd is displayed in the domain view.

I'm stumped. I double checked that "bypass hidden parts before export" is checked and the "removed" segments are not removed.

DvdReMake will remove blocks only if they are not used anywhere else.

Make sure that it is not used in other PGC. Keep in mind that there is a difference between hiding block in Domain Content Pane and in PGC programs pane. Hiding block in programs pane will create a copy of needed blocks and edit them so that other PGCs play same way as before editing.

In this specific DVD all of the video is in one PGC. I am actually deleting the program + block from the programs pane as the display on the domain content pane is not showing up correctly due to the weird way the chapters are used in the blocks of video. I can send the original disc to you if you like so that you can see the problems that I am running in to.

Can you use this tool to extract nav-packs from whole disk: http://cdr-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1025 ?

Zip created files and email to us: dvdremake at dimadsoft.com

With explanations what we are supposed to look for (screenshots will help).