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Old 20-07-2008   #1 (permalink)
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I have just got myself a copy of DvdRemakePro and am a little confused at the moment. I have a copy of a movie that has been converted from DVD9 to DVD5 by removing the special features and placing them on separate disc. I now wish to preserve the original release and convert back to DVD9. So far I have worked out how to import the files to remakepro (easy lol) and I have managed to "sort of" replace the button that was removed for special features. However I am at a complete loss as to how to import everything from disc 2 to disc 1 and activate the button i have created. I dont seem to have an option to give the proper command for the button or something. I really am at a loss here. I have read a number of the guides and the questions posted here. However what I have read is either not entirely relevent to what I am trying to do or seems to be far more advanced than that which I wish to achieve.
I guess I am sort of pleading that someone can spend some time providing me with a bit of a walkthrough. Thanks in advance for any responders
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Hi, what version do you have currently?

Wouldn't it be easier to just obtain the copy from the original, unless you do not have it to begin with?

Depending on your disc was split and what program was used at the time, it could be easily combined or it could be very complicated depending on your dvd.

Some screenshots on the problem areas with explanations would be helpful before detailed advice can be given.
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okies this gonna take ages lol. Ive never done screenshots before and Im not sure which bits are important to you. And nope i dont have the original source nor access to it. Ill try and post a couple of screenshots so that you may tell me whether theyre useful or not. BTW this is my first time trying to post any sort of picture anywhere hope it works.
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woohooo seems to have worked
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If you want to put two DVD together , just use Merge option with Remake.
Otherwise you can copy and paste each PGC from second DVD to first one, but than it will involve lots of command editing.
As for a additional text in menu. If there was a highlight and you just modify text above it just place a selection box over the highlight corresponding to a text, than it will work.
If this is a new text and highlight was not there before, even placing a box over will not highlight the text.
You will be able to pick it with your remount, but you will not see if you are over it.
In this case you will have to create a now menu with highlights and import it into your project.
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woohooo seems to have worked
If you do not own the original disc it is illegal to make a copy. You may however backup your original disc. If this movie is copyrighted material you must own a copy of the original.
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Otherwise you can copy and paste each PGC from second DVD to first one, but than it will involve lots of command editing.
Apart from being impractical and prone to error, it will not work if the stream attributes are not the same in each VTS. That's why, when merging DVDs, DVDRMP makes new VTSs for each.

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aahh mr blutach a fellow aussie. G'day. okies, as far as i know it is not copyrighted material. The movie I am trying to put back together is actually a previously "unreleased" documentary of the rolling stones in the 70s. Not sure on exact copyright laws on this but am pretty sure that providing money is not exchanged for said movie, individuals are free to trade such material. Hence a number of "bootleg" trade websites operating legally and following the law. In accordnace with relevant laws there exists a list of bands on the given website for which material is not to be posted. http://www.tapecity.org/faq.php
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Now i know I can just use the merge option but thats not really achieving what I want. That just means i have two discs on 1 disc.
Ill try and post some links to some more screenshots. I wont post the screenshots here cause I'm not sure about this forums rules on explicit language and the title of the dvd does contain some.
Am new to this posting photos so link might not work. If it does, however, this shows the title screen with the missing button for special features. The other day I placed a new button in there just under special features the same as the others. But i didnt know how to give it commands to do anything or even recognise it as a button.
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...enuscreen1.jpg
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If you tell me what screenshots you need i can post em and maybe you could walk me through some steps. Once ive done a couple I'm sure I'll catch on. Thanks everyone so far for your replies.
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Hmmm everyones gone quiet on me. Is there nobody te help
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This quote is from the site you listed.

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No torrent may distribute any material of artists, either individuals or bands, who do not agree to the electronic distribution of their unofficially recorded live shows.
I think this is a reason nobody want to talk to you any more.

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Exactly! It is illegal to share unofficially recorded live shows of bands which do not agree to the electronic distribution of such material. Hence this list http://tapecity.org/showthread.php?t=10375 of bands which are not to be traded.

I would really like to put these DVDs back together if anyone is willing to help. I'm not well versed in finer details of copyright law, however, i do know that this web site is very quick to remove anything they see as a breech of their stated rules for posting based on their insight into the law. I am not trying to break the law, I simply wish to put these DVD's back together and learn how to use this program along the way.
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OK, but it is not going to be that easy. It will require other software to make a new menu and add highlights there where you added new text, than it will require some knowledge of commands to re navigate DVD.
For Menu some people use Photoshop, I use DVDLab. I think there is some explanation on How To in Remake manual.
Your new DVD will need dual layer disc, because if you compress combined DVD it will be too much of a compression to be good, almost 50%.

You have both open in two projects. Easiest would be to import project1 into 2 since there is only one VTS to worry about.
To do it, create new VTS in project2, add Menu domain by clicking on Add Language Unit.
Add 3 PGC under Menu and one under Program.
Than copy each PGC and append to corresponding PGC in new VTS. Enable audio.
This is easy part.
Now you have to add new Title in Title Window and add chapters, if any.
Once done you have to start adding commands to navigate to your new VTS from existing menu and back. This will have to be done through VMG PGC. You can create few(add new PGC), if you need.
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wooohooo thanks for helping. I have attempted some of your advise so far and made a little bit of progress i think. I created new VTS in project 2 and created the PGC's. I managed to append menu PGC 2+3 but for PGC 1 the append button is greyed out. I am not sure if it actually contains anything??. The main menu is PGC 2 as this link will show (language warning) http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...enuscreen1.jpg. Also I am not sure how to enable audio. Also I am curious as to why the file sizes of the PGC's has decreased. PGC gone from 12mb to 1.13mb and PGC1 under program chains from 4305 to 4008mb. Anyways heres a piccy that might show progress so far. lol and you say this is the easy bit, it took me a couple of hours. At least I am learning to navigate this program at same time.
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oops big piccy will make it smaller next time.
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Program PGC1 is small, because there is nothing enabled only picture.
Right click on PGC1, than open Audio Tab and click on audio stream you want to unable, than Edit Audio.
New window will open and you will see Unable box. Highlight it and that is it.
PGC 2+3 have picture, PGC1 is commands only, that is why you cannot copy it.
As for size in PGC2+3, I do not know what is in there, but again only picture is enabled.

I will be gone for couple of weeks, no Internet, so hope by than somebody else will help or you will solve it yourself, because the fun start now.
Good Luck.
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ok I think i have enabled the audio for all the PGC's. still few mb diff in size for PGC2+3.
Whadya mean you'll be gone couple of weeks. Whadya mean the funs starting now. Cheers for the good luck I think I'll be needing it.
Anyone else wanna jump onboard the DreadyG help line.
I'll have a play around anyways. If I'm sitting shaking in a corner in the dark with my computer in pieces you'll know somethings gone wrong
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Anyone know a good place to start to learn to add the commands i'll need
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From your post #3, it appears that the movie is project1 and the bonus features is project2, correct? Perhaps you can explain this to me. What program was used to split the DVD9 into 2 DVD5? In project1, I can see there are menus (main menu and scene selection, I presume) in VTS 1 and there is some video in Video Manager/Menus en/PGC 1 - what is it? In project2, there is a menu in Video Manager/Menus en/PGC 2 and a menu in VTS 1/Menus en/PGC 2, and perhaps there are others in other VTSs. If a well-known program was used to split, it should retain the original dvd structure and the bonus features button shouldn't be deleted so as to make merging back later easier. From your screenshots, it appears this was done manually.

From your post #15, adding PGCs manually is not really efficient and can result in size differences as shown. The proper way is to copy the VTS in 1 project and add the copied VTS to the other project.

Anyways, I think posting screenshots alone will not help solve your problem quickly. So here's what you do:

1. Start from the beginning, nothing is modified, in project1 (main movie), right-click on VTS1/Menus en and 'Convert menus to still'. Then File/Export modified files to some temporary folder, called it 'project1'. Zip project1 folder up.
2. As for project2 (special features), if there are no motion menus in VTS 3-7, then just zip up ALL the IFOs, VIDEO_TS.VOB, and VTS_01_0.VOB from the project2 source folder.
3. Upload these 2 zip files to some file hosting site, like http://www.savefile.com

I'll take a look further on how to make merging easier. Of course, there are different methods on how to do it. It's a matter of preference.
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okies now i feel like a right idiot. Tried using winzip but doesnt make much diff to file size. It goes from 4.29gb to 4.21gb. Ive never really used winzip before had to d/load trial version for this lol. maybe I'm doing something wrong will look again tomorrow. Anyways to answer your other questions.

1.yes movie is project 1 and special features is project 2.
2.I have tried to look for a history of the file but there is no mention of what was used to split the DVD.
3. menus in project 1 are main menu and scene selection yes correct
4. the video in video manager/menus en/ PGC 1 is an introduction thing just saying what the DVD is and stuff- its kind of annoying and atm i dont think you can fast forward or skip it.
5. in project 2 (special features) the structure is basically the main menu followed in some cases by another menu. VTS 1,3 and 6 have menus.

Thats all for me for today time for some sleep
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just a thought, would posting a copy of the DVDremake document be of any use to ya.
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If you mean DvdReMake project file (.drp), then no. I just need the dvd files as mentioned in my last post.

You're not zipping it right. I'd expect it to be a few MBs, not GBs! I don't need to see all the VOBs, just the IFOs and the all the menu VOBs. Read post #20 again.

As for project2, since there are menus in VTS 3 & 6 also, you just need to zip ALL the IFOs, VIDEO_TS.VOB, VTS_01_0.VOB, VTS_03_0.VOB, and VTS_06_0.VOB.

You can use 7-zip (it's free) to zip up these files. It compresses a lot better than Winzip.
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OK am hoping I've done this right and that all you need is there.

project 1 http://www.savefile.com/files/1699998

project 2 http://www.savefile.com/files/1699982
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Before merging the 2 projects together, you want to work on the all the menus, except the scene selection menu, of both projects first, adding the subpic highlight and the button info back to each menu.

Tools: DvdSubEdit, graphic editor (e.g. Photoshop), MuxMan, DvdReMake Pro

Working on menus
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1. Easy way is to extract the subpic BMP of the menu for editing using DvdSubEdit. You must close DVDRMP for DvdSubEdit to have exclusive access to the DVD files. So for the main movie (project1), with DvdSubEdit, select File -> Open VOB file, and select VTS_01_0.VOB.
2. The first picture is the main menu, select File -> Save current subpic as a bitmap. Save to the 'menu' folder. You may want to rename the file like 'mainmenu_subpic.bmp'.
3. Then File -> Save current video frame as .BMP. Rename the file to 'mainmenu.bmp'. You need this file so you know where to add the subpic highlight for the Bonus Features button.
4. I would repeat steps 1-3 for project2, extracting ALL the menus and subpics. This way, you have all the bitmaps ready for editing.

5. Now use your favorite graphic editor that is capable of showing layers. I use Photoshop. With the background menu and the corresponding subpic BMP imported, put the subpic BMP as layer1 on top of the background menu. Make a copy of the subpic highlight bar, it should be
layer2. Make layer1 partially transparent so you can see the background. Move the copied highlight bar (layer2) to the text where the missing highlight is, e.g. Bonus Features, Back. Once in position, make layer1 to be 100% opaque. Now merge layer2 down onto layer1. Copy this layer1 onto the original subpic BMP. Save.

6. Repeat step 5 for all other menus (Back button) in project2. Note that in the Bonus Features menu (project2/VMGM 2), you would need to add "Main Menu" text onto the menu background. You can copy this text from VTS2/Menus en/PGC 2 menu.

7. Once all these editing are done, open EACH menu VOB file and replace the modified subpic BMP in DvdSubEdit (File -> Replace current subpic with .BMP file) for EACH modified menu. Save all modifications (Ctrl-S).

8. Convert the modified Bonus Features menu background (BMP) into VOB format, using MuxMan.

Adding new buttons
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Now import the main movie and special features DVD as 2 projects in DVDRMP. You can add a new button to each modified menu in both projects. You can do this now or do it later after merging. I'd prefer to do it now so I can test that the button highlight is showing up correctly. I find adding a button via PgcEdit is a lot easier as the button coordinate is easily manipulated via use of a slider. In DVDRMP, you have to manually enter the coordinate. However, let's say we use DVDRMP.

9. In project1, main menu, add a button for Bonus Features. Manually enter the position coordinates, kind of guessing that the green rectangle covers the invisible button highlight. Fix the adjacent button links (up,down,left,right) for all 3 buttons so you can navigate via remote directional buttons. Make sure color scheme is 1. Do not worry about button command at the moment.
10. Export modified files to some temporary folder.
11. Test in a software player to make sure the button highlight for Bonus Features is showing when selected.
12. If it doesn't show up or partially highlights, correct the button coordinates again in DVDRMP. Do an 'Update export'. Repeat this step until you're satisfied.
13. Close the project. Move the modified files back to the project1's source folder. Make sure you make a backup of ALL the IFOs and the menu VOB first before moving.

14. Repeat steps 9-13 for project2 (special features). In addition, for the Bonus Features menu, replace it with the modified menu (in step 8) - select 'Replace with still' in Preview window, Load button, and select the VTS_01_1.VOB created by MuxMan.

Merging DVDs
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Now it's time to merge the DVDs. It's easier to merge project1 onto project2 as there are less steps to do.

15. In project1, copy the VMG PGC 1 (the intro video before displaying the main menu).
16. Go to project2, right-click on Video Manager/Menus en and select 'Add copied PGCs'. A warning dialog will pop up. Click OK.
17. Go back to project1, Video Manager/Menus en/Audio Tracks pane, select 'Copy tracks info'. Then 'Paste tracks info' in project2, Video Manager/Menus en/Audio Tracks pane.
18. In project1, right-click on VTS1 and select 'Copy VTS'. Then in project2, right-click on DVD and select 'Add copied VTS'. VTS8 should be created.
19. In project2, VMG Titles, right window, add a new VMG title (VMG title 8) for VTS8.

Now to fix the commands to make everything working.

20. In First Play PGC, change last pre-command to 'Jump VMG PGC 3'.
21. In VMG PGC 1, change last pre-command to 'Jump VTS 8 "root" menu (title 1)'.
22. In VMG PGC 3, change post-command to 'Jump VTS 8 "root" menu (title 1)'.
23. In VMG PGC 2, change button command #8 (Main Menu) to 'Jump VMG "title" menu'.
24. In VTS1/Menus en/PGC2, change Main Menu button command to 'Jump VMG "title" menu'. Change Back button to 'Jump VMG PGC 2'.
25. Repeat step 24 for VTS 3 and 6.
26. In VTS8/Menus en/PGC2, change Bonus Features button command to 'Jump VMG PGC 2'.

27. Export and test.

That's it. Hope the steps are clear enough for you.
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