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Old 10-04-2007   #1 (permalink)
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help with merging discs without the disc menu

I'm fairly familiar with dvdremake pro but am stumped on a project. I'm trying to merge a flipper disc so it will play through continously without having to return to the dvdremake disc 1 or disc 2 menu. I tried editing out the disc 1, disc 2 menu but then the folder won't play at all. any help or suggestions would be appreciated. thanks.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

What version of DvdReMake Pro are you using?

To merge the flipper disc and play continuously and seamlessly:

1. Copy the movie PGC from disc 2 and append it to the movie PGC in disc 1.
2. Change the Seamless flag to "Yes" for the last cell of disc 1 movie and the first cell of disc 2 movie. If the last cell of disc 1 movie is a blank cell, you can safely delete it. If there's a chapter reference to it, delete it as well.
3. Create chapters for the appended disc 2 PGC.

If you don't care about menus, then this will do the trick. If you'd like to import disc 2 chapter menus, you need to adjust and add the appropriate commands to refer to the appended disc 2 PGC.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

sounds complicated but I'll give it a try. thanks. oh my version is 3.5.3
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

There's another approach. If you use the Merge feature and still want disc 2 to play automatically without you having to press Title menu to go to DvdReMake disk selection menu, then follow the guide under Advanced Editing of the DvdReMake manual. This method will play continuously but not seamlessly. Both flipper sides' dvd structure will still remain intact, that includes menus.

There are a few of these discussions in cdr-zone forum and possibly in this forum here (use search) and in the Sticky List of Useful Topics.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

WOW, I've never really gotten into the advanced features of remake pro. I'm totally lost on the 1st method you suggested. I've primarily only used it to edit out the garbage. I'll take a stab at your second method.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

toaddub,

I don't want to bother you too much but I have a couple questions. I've sucessfully copied pgc from disc 2 and appended it to disc 1 pgc. I don't see where to change the seamless flags to yes, however it does play back continously now with powerdvd from my hdd with only a small gap between disc 1 and disc 2. How do I create chapters for the disc 2 pgc now. Disc 2 pgc appears to all be on the last chapter of disc 1 pgc.

If I can't figure the rest of this out relativey easily, I'll just call it quits and leave the remake disc menu in there and quit bothering you. I'm so close though. Thank you.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

Nevermind on the chapters. I think I figured that part out. I guess that just leaves the part about the seamless flags.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

If the last cell is a blank cell (look in the Preview window), delete it. This will eliminate the small gap. If you see the Titles pane light up in red, go to it and delete the red item (should be the unreferenced Chapter number).

For seamless, if you see the last cell of disc 1 and/or the first cell of disc 2 has the Seamless column labeling "no", double-click on the cell, a PGC Block Attributes dialog brings up, put a check mark next to 'Seamless playback' and this will change to "yes" in Seamless column.

To create chapters, in the Titles pane, right-click on any Chapter # and select "Add chapter". A "Select Program" dialog brings up. Multi-select (use Shift) from the selected program to the last program, and click OK.
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No blank cells and no seamless column labeling no. Guess I can live with the 3 second gap. I'm gonna try my luck at merging a couple episodic dvd's now using this method so wish me luck. I know it will be much more complicated and include more title sets and menus but I might as well learn how to use this fancy software. Thank you sir.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

It's impossible that appending copied PGC resulting in not seeing Seamless being "no" or "no auto". The first program of a PGC should have Seamless being "no auto" (technically, in the IFO, you should see the cell type flag being 2 for a normal block type). This should carry over when you're appending PGC.

I don't know about the 3-sec gap. Is it a 3-sec pause or a 3-sec of black screen? Maybe a screenshot of the Programs pane would help, detailing which programs are disc1 and disc2 after appending.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place for the seamless flag. This is a screenshot of the last cell block on disc 1.



Here is a screenshot of the 1st cell block on disc 2.



It's 3 sec of black screen.

Edit to resize screenshots.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

You're in the VTS domain and you're selecting one of the blocks in the Domain Content view. Click on PGC 1 in the DVD tree (left side of window) and you should see the Programs pane in one of the tabs.

I suggest you take some time reading the manual to familiarize the terminologies.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

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I suggest you take some time reading the manual to familiarize the terminologies.
Yes, I apologize. Ok found it and looks like thats where the 3 sec of black screen lies. Checking seamless playback should remove the 3 sec of black screen correct.

I may be back with questions on merging episodic dvd's later. If you get fed up with me please don't hesitate to let me know. I really appreciate all your help, time, and patience. I've had this program for a couple of years but I'm still considered a newbie with it. Thank you.

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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

Hmm, I checked seamless playback for program 24 and it changed from no to yes under seam but there is still about 3 sec of black screen between where disc 1 ends and disc 2 starts. I guess that's as good as it's gonna get.
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Just delete program 24 then, use "Delete program and block".
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

Program 24 is the first program and cell on disc 2. It contains movie video and audio. It's not a big deal. I can live with the short gap between discs. It's much better than having to navigate with the remake disc menu.



Don't worry about me bothering you about help with merging episodic dvd's, for a while anyway. I've got a lot to learn about navigation and commands 1st.
Thanks again.
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ok, didn't know it contains content. So basically, it contains the first 3 seconds of black screen. Maybe it's being authored this way. But if you don't like this 3-seconds of black screen, just cut it out of the content by doing this:

Select program 24. Go to the Preview window, scroll it to the first frame of the video (use the > arrow of the scrollbar) and "Cut to here".

Don't be afraid to ask. That's how you learn. We're here to help. Besides, you are not alone in this.

One good way to learn about navigation and commands is use the debug player in Step mode, look at how the registers stored the values and how the navigation works. You may need to reorganize the Registers and System Registers panes around in the window to see everything at once.
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Man, you have got this proggy mastered. I'm impressed. Did you assist dimad in creating this software? BTW that did the trick although I had to "cut from" a little bit of black screen from the last cell of disc 1 too.

To increase my knowledge and learn what all remake can do (and how to do it), where can I find the advanced editing section of the dvdremake manual? I've looked on the dimadsoft website and can't even find the dvdremake pro manual. I'm not a member of that other forum.
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The manual is at dimadsoft site here: http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/info.php. It's not up-to-date yet, but at least it will get you going. Everything you want to do in the program is in the context menu and the functions are pretty self-descriptive.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu



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I am totally confused. I've been trying to use the dvdremake manual under advanced editing and making merged discs play consecutively but some things don't jive with the diagrams and I don't have the highlighted_button command or at least I haven't found it. There is also no figure 3 on that page. What's up with this? Am I just an idiot? This has me frustrated. I'm lost. I pointed out what doesn't jive in the screenshot above. Any assistance will be appreciated. Thank you.
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Sorry you get confused. This guide was written for 3.0. It will be updated soon. With current version 3.5.3, notice that when you select Add command, a Command Edit dialog now automatically opens up and you can now select the button number to the highlighted_button entry instead of manually entering the value.

In Step 4, when you first add a Break command, it will be line 18. When you're done adding commands, it will eventually become line 20 because you inserted 2 commands at the beginning (Steps 5 & 6).

The highlighted_button command is in the System Set Instructions category.



Figure 3 is a typo, it's supposed to be Figure 2.

In Step 5, it should be "if (R[0] == 2) goto line 19". DRMP now automatically updates the goto line number when the command is inserted. The same for Step 6, it should be "if (R[0] == 3) goto line 21".

The final result should be similar to Figure 2. This illustration is for merging 3 discs or projects, not 2. If it's 2 discs, you only need to add lines 1, 20, 21 in Figure 2.
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Hehe. I apologize for my last post. I was tired last night. I had been helping a buddy update his bios and OC his pc. The bios update utility I wanted to use wouldn't load properly. I finally got the bios updated using a different utility and the OC was successful.

Anyway, I found the highlighted_button command and now understand why some things didn't jive with the figure. I only had two discs to merge so I followed your directions. Presto, it actually works. Once again I'm impressed. Lot of work though for me since I have to follow the directions step by step.

Everything seems to work fine playing it from my hdd with powerdvd. I'll go ahead and compress it to fit on a dvd9 with RB/CCE and verify that it works ok on my stand-alone dvd player.

One thing that would be nice (and this is the way the original dvds play) is after each episode is finished, it goes back to that episodes menu and I have to click return to disc menu to play the next episode. It would be nice if I could edit it to skip the episode menu and go straight to the disc menu after each episode. No biggie though. Thank you so much for your time and patience. Here is a screenshot of my layout.

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I think you're following the steps in the wrong VTS (VTS 9). Figure 2 steps are to be done in a DvdRemake disc selection menu. After 3.0, the disc selection menu is moved to the last VTS after the merge. In your case, it's VTS 20.

Seems like you're merging 2 discs, each having 4 episodes. The screenshot above, where the inserted post commands lines 1-2 in VTS 9, should go through the disc selection menu (which you won't see during normal playback) and onto the second disc.
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Oh ok. The way it works now, when disc 1 is done it goes directly to the dvdremake disc menu and I just click on disc 2. Still better than having to manually go to the title menu (dvdremake disc menu) after disc 1 is finished playing. I'll try it again only this time making the changes in VTS 20. Thanks.
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Re: help with merging discs without the disc menu

I have one question. In VTS 20 ( dvdremake disc menu) do I make the changes to Menus PGC 1 (Root Menu) or Program Chains PGC 1 (title 1)?

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