newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL - Club CDFreaks

jeff53404 · 30-03-2006

I just got the Sony 810UL and want to try DVD-R DL. They're only available on-line, big bucks and it seems they just became available. Does anyone have recommendations what will work best.

Thanks - Jeff

gregtherotterius · 30-03-2006

i suspect you mean +r DL? verbatims are always reccomended. I'm not sure if the scans will relate, but these are the sort of results i get on my 800UL with various media (tuff disc-terrible, bulkpaq-acceptable,ricoh-good, verbatim- very good):
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?p=1363626

jeff53404 · 31-03-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregtherotterius

i suspect you mean +r DL? verbatims are always reccomended. I'm not sure if the scans will relate, but these are the sort of results i get on my 800UL with various media (tuff disc-terrible, bulkpaq-acceptable,ricoh-good, verbatim- very good):
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?p=1363626

No, it's dvd-r dl. For some reason, experts call +R dl a "double layer" and the -R DL is called a "Dual Layer". My DVD player only supports the minus system and I want to burn a DL disc so I need -R DL.

I also discovered this media is so new that none of the superstores (BestBuy, Circuit City) carry it but there are several on-line vendors that do. So far, it looks like Verbatim and Ritek are the only ones available.

*_chef_* · 31-03-2006

You are sure that you standalone/dvd player only supports -R DL?

Who told you that??

jeff53404 · 31-03-2006

It's a Denon 1710 (an entry level unit). It says only use -R in the manual and I called Denon tech support as well. They confirmed.

*_chef_* · 31-03-2006

Then you should be able to feed it with an +R booktyped to DVD-ROM anyway.
Most burners do this by standard these days to increase the compatiblity of this DL media with drives & standalones.

PS: Bad medisupport: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....arch&#comments

jeff53404 · 31-03-2006

I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying: Does the coding need to be changed on the Denon DVD player or am I burning a +R DL but tricking the Denon into thinking it's a -R DL?

Is there a step by step procedure I can follow?

*_chef_* · 01-04-2006

If your burner/firmware/software supports that you can bitset the +R DL to DVD-ROM.

jeff53404 · 02-04-2006

Wow - it works. Everything I read indicated the +R and -R manufacturing technology and reading technologys are different. In fact, Denon told me to not insert a +R in my DVD player as it only reads -R.

I purchased some Verbatim +R and Verbatim +R DL media. The booktype was set to DVD-ROM and every one I burnt worked. Incredible.

*_chef_* · 03-04-2006

A Happy Ending.

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jeff53404 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 858	newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I just got the Sony 810UL and want to try DVD-R DL. They're only available on-line, big bucks and it seems they just became available. Does anyone have recommendations what will work best. Thanks - Jeff

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gregtherotterius CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,772	Re: newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL i suspect you mean +r DL? verbatims are always reccomended. I'm not sure if the scans will relate, but these are the sort of results i get on my 800UL with various media (tuff disc-terrible, bulkpaq-acceptable,ricoh-good, verbatim- very good): http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?p=1363626

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_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,179	Re: newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL You are sure that you standalone/dvd player only supports -R DL? Who told you that?? __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

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jeff53404 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 858	Re: newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL It's a Denon 1710 (an entry level unit). It says only use -R in the manual and I called Denon tech support as well. They confirmed.

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_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,179	Re: newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL Then you should be able to feed it with an +R booktyped to DVD-ROM anyway. Most burners do this by standard these days to increase the compatiblity of this DL media with drives & standalones. PS: Bad medisupport: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....arch&#comments __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

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jeff53404 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 858	Re: newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying: Does the coding need to be changed on the Denon DVD player or am I burning a +R DL but tricking the Denon into thinking it's a -R DL? Is there a step by step procedure I can follow?

01-04-2006	#8 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,179	Re: newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL If your burner/firmware/software supports that you can bitset the +R DL to DVD-ROM. __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

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jeff53404 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 858	Re: newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL Wow - it works. Everything I read indicated the +R and -R manufacturing technology and reading technologys are different. In fact, Denon told me to not insert a +R in my DVD player as it only reads -R. I purchased some Verbatim +R and Verbatim +R DL media. The booktype was set to DVD-ROM and every one I burnt worked. Incredible.

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_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,179	Re: newbie - best dvd-r dl media for an 810UL A Happy Ending. __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

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