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| Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
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| DVD Burner - NEC - 3540A ![]() Review http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/214 SPECIFICATIONS (from Nec.de): Transfer Rate read and write: DVD +R: 16x max. DVD-R: 16x max. DVD +RW: 8x max. DVD-RW: 6x max. DVD +R9: 8x max. DVD-R DL: 4x CD-R: 48x max. CD-RW: 32x max. Access time DVD 140ms, CD 120ms Mechanism motorized tray load mechanism for horizontal and vertical use Interface IDE / ATAPI Burst transfer rate PIO mode 4 / Ultra DMA 33 Cache 2 MB Media supported DVD-ROM, DVD-R (DL approx march 2005), DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW,DVD+R9,CD-ROM, CD-R and CD-RW with 80mm and 120mm diameter Modes supported DVD-ROM,DVD-Video,CD-DA, CD Extra,CD Text,CD-ROM,CD-ROM XA,CD-I,CD-I Ready,CD-Bridge,PhotoCD, VideoCD Writing methods DAO, SAO,TAO with zero gap,variable or fixed packet, multisession Compatibility MPC Level 3, MultiRead, PC2001 Dimensions 148mm x 42mm x 190mm
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| Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Today I have a unique opportunity to test this drive. I decided to test the drive with the firmware that it came with instead of Liggy & Dee unofficial firmware because the drive isn't mine and the owner probably wouldn't want me to void the warrany. =)
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| Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Test #1 Fuji branded YUDEN000T02 (TT001158) Burned @16x Compare with: Philips 1640 P3.4 @ 16x Nec 3500 2.TC @16x LG 4163 @12x Comment: The drive didn't burn this somehow problematic YUDEN000T02 discs well.. both LG 4163 and Philips 1640 burned it a lot better. Also the transfer rate test showed problems while reading at the end.
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| Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Test #2 Verbatim branded MCC004 (Made in Taiwan) Burned @16x Compare with: Philips 1640 P3.4 @16x Nec 3500 2.TC @ 16x LG 4163 @ 16x Comment: The quality of MCC004 @ 16x was good.. but not the best. LiteON 411 showed very good overall quality but at the end was catastrophic. Nec & Philips showed a graph that is within the limits. Transfer rate test showed no slowdown.. but it's still better to burn this discs at a lower speed just to be at the safe side.
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Test #3 Maxell branded RITEKR03 Burned @8x Compare with: Philips 1640 P3.4 LG 4163 A102 Comment: This are IMHO not very good disc.. but Nec 3540 burns them well as LG 4163. Transfer rate shows no trouble but I wouldn't recommend them.. PIF levels are way to high for a 8x disc burned at 8x.
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Test #4 Verbatim branded MCC03RG20 Burned @16x Compare with: Philips 1640 T3.4 LG 4163 A104 @ 16x #1 LG 4163 A104 @ 16x #2 LG 4163 A104 @ 16x #3 Comment: Nec 3540 likes this discs very much.. low PIF on all three scans. However LiteOn and Philips saw 2 high spikes near 3.7 but I wouldn't worry too much about them. Very recommended discs.
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Test #5 Verbatim branded MCC003 Burned @8x Compare with: Philips 1640 P3.4 @ 8x #1 Philips 1640 P3.4 @ 8x #2 Comment: The quality with this discs looks great.. but for some reasons LiteOn didn't liked it very much. Transfer rate doesn't show any slowdowns.
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Test #6 Fuji branded TYG02 (GG000041) Burned @12x Compare with: Philips 1640 P3.4 @ 16x Philips 1640 P3.4 @ 8x Comment: Not very nice scans with this discs.. Philips 1640 can burn them at 16x by far better than Nec 3540 at 12x.. with lower jitter and PIF. However in transfer rate graph the drive shows no slowdowns so it looks like Nec 3540 is quite a good reader.
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| Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Conclusion for today: I'm a little disappointed in Nec 3540 with official firmware.. with the best discs I have it didn't even once beat my Philips 1640 or LG 4163.. even worse.. on discs like TYG02 or YUDEN000T02 the quality was very poor. If you wan't good quality burns the use of unofficial firmware is necessary for this drive. If I have time I will try some more scans tommorow. Note: If somebody is wondering.. the disc burned with another burners (the scans in the links) are all from the same batch as the one tested on Nec 3540.
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| Administrator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA/Norway/Germany
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Hmm, interesting results you got there Quikee! The impression of your results makes me wonder if your system is unstable or if you got one of those “bad-operating” 3540’s. So far, my personal impression of the NEC ND-3540A is very impressive - maybe there is somebody out there that has similar experiences and thoughts?
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| Administrator and Reviewer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Scotland, UK
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A I’ve also been very impressed with ND-3540. With the media I have its burning as well if not better than the other drives in my system. I burned many discs before starting to modify the firmware, so I don’t think it’s a firmware issue. But not all drives are equal, and I know I’ve seen some poor burns with this drive as well. Quikee; It looks like the one you tested is less than perfect. ![]()
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| Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Well.. there is nothing wrong with the system. =) The system is far superior to mine.. the windows are fresh.. drivers are MS.. brust rate is 26 MB/s.. so I guess it's the drive. At least I didn't buy this drive (hehe).. and it looks like that now I won't. =) Still.. it doesn't look good for Nec if such drives as this exist.
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A I think its fair to say the odd rogue writer exists regardless of brand Quikee. Your m8 got unlucky it seems. I have had 3 plex 716s and I am on BenQ 1620 number 4. I actually like the 3540 and I am gad I have had it to test. |
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| Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Quote:
However such a drive can be even worse than a dead drive.. you can return a dead drive and get a new one.. however try to return this one.. they would try it.. saw that nothing's wrong with it (if something like burn quality doesn't exist in their language) and tell you "hey dumbass.. it's nothing wrong with the drive". =) BTW. It's not my luck.. as I said the drive is not mine. =P I'm happy with my Philips 1640, LG 4163 and Nec 3500.. however I considered selling my Nec 3500 and buy a Nec 3540 instead.
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Quote:
Anyway - don't wanna turn this into another 'whos best drive' thread so I will keep my fingers crossed that your friend can get it replaced and recieve a better one. ![]() | |
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| Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Quote:
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A Great job Quikee. Thanks I already have 2 NEC's (3500) so I don't think I'll go for the 3540... Quote:
In sweden we can get 10-30 days refund in ordinary shops. ![]() | |
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| Author of NecDump Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maribor, Slovenia
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| Re: DVD Burner-NEC-3540A If you're nice they will give you a refund.. but they aren't obligated to do so.. when you buy a product in shop the only right you have is the warranty. If you buy online on the other hand you can return the product in 14 days and they must give you a refund if you're not satisfied with it. The online shopping isn't very popular here yet.. a lot of people still go out and shop like in good old days. =) I only once bought a product online.. usually I go in the city for disc hunting =).. this way I know what I'm buying and also get a little fresh air. =)
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