which burner????? - Club CDFreaks

smi0815 · 24-01-2006

hello!!
my name is smi from germany.
I have a samsung writemaster DVD burner TS-H552B. this burner really sucks!!!! most of the movies I´ve burnerd have CRC faults. I´ve just updated the firmware, and now it´s totally down. so I want to buy a new one. I mostly burn films and sometimes data.

My DVDs mostly have the following information:
MID: MCC02RG20
Producer: Verbatim

or sometimes taiyo yuden

what burner can you recommend?
I think a benQ or a NEC would be the best, but I don´t really know much about it.
maybe the new benQ 1655???
thanks for answers!!!
..and sorry for my english

*_chef_* · 24-01-2006

Try with 8x rated TY or Verbatims, I'd suggest that.
The Samsung isn't that bad, in most cases other things interfere into the burning quality such as cheap cables and PSU...

*Quema34* · 24-01-2006

smi, from the scans I've seen with quality media on the BenQ 1655, I would recommend that one. It fixes some 16x burn issues over the 1640, and has just had another official firmware release. I do not think you would go wrong getting the 1655.

smi0815 · 24-01-2006

hmm...
i thought so, that this burner is pretty good. but I´m not really skilled in these things.
maybe this one:
http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/pr...?artno=CEAQ24&
I think the price is ok

and what about plextor? I´ve heared, that they are also pretty good. but they´re very expensive, aren´t they?

*_chef_* · 24-01-2006

The Plextors are good, even their new ones. But IMO the "legend" Plextor is suffering from the things they have done in the recent past... eg PxTools related things.

Also the BenQ costs only a fracture of a similar Plextor.

*Quema34* · 24-01-2006

Smi, that is the correct burner: The BenQ DW-1655 Lightscribe. You might check if that store has a BenQ DW-1650, as it might be cheaper. The 1650 is the same as the 1655, except without the Lightscribe label-burning ability. The 1650 and 1655 are about the same in producing good quality burns, but it does seem the 1650 is better than the 1655 to a small degree. Because it is without Lightscribe (and if you can find it), the 1650 should be cheaper than the 1655.

Plextor is expensive, and especially in America, Plextor's reputation is very poor, as with the 716a, some U.S. buyers had to RMA (return the drive to Plextor) up to 8 times to get a good burner. Another thing bad about Plextor is that Plextor is very slow about improving and updating its firmware. BenQ will release a new firmware about every 45 days, but you are lucky if Plextor releases a new firmware in 120 days. Also, the Plextor 755 is much slower in standard burning times. For example, a 8x-speed burn should take about 8 minutes, but the 755 needs 9 or more; a 12x burn should take about 6 min., 30 secs., but the 755 needs a minute more, or 7 minutes 30 seconds. So you not only pay more for a Plextor, but you are lucky if you get a new firmware release, and you cannot be guaranteed to get a good, quality working unit. I would basically eliminate Plextor from any consideration because of these reasons.

*DaChew* · 25-01-2006

there is one good plextor, and it's a benq

smi0815 · 25-01-2006

thank you very much!!
that really helps!!
I think I will buy the benQ. maybe I can even find the 1650, because I don´t really need lightscribe.

*DaChew* · 25-01-2006

I am beginning to think the benq 1650 is a figment of imagination!

schweino · 25-01-2006

Holy crap, 64 euros for a bulk 1655? Alternate.de must be mad. Here in The Netherlands the 1655 bulk is about 50 euros, the 1650 can even be found for as low as 43 euros. I would check out some other stored in .de if I were you mate.

*_chef_* · 26-01-2006

http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a185070.html

smi0815 · 29-01-2006

what is the difference between bulk and retail?
http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/pr...?artno=CEAQ27&
or
http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/pr...?artno=CEAQ25&
bulk is even cheaper??

smi0815 · 30-01-2006

it´s ok
I´ve already found the difference!!!

24-01-2006	#1 (permalink)
smi0815 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6	which burner????? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> hello!! my name is smi from germany. I have a samsung writemaster DVD burner TS-H552B. this burner really sucks!!!! most of the movies I´ve burnerd have CRC faults. I´ve just updated the firmware, and now it´s totally down. so I want to buy a new one. I mostly burn films and sometimes data. My DVDs mostly have the following information: MID: MCC02RG20 Producer: Verbatim or sometimes taiyo yuden what burner can you recommend? I think a benQ or a NEC would be the best, but I don´t really know much about it. maybe the new benQ 1655??? thanks for answers!!! ..and sorry for my english

24-01-2006	#2 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 23,950	Re: which burner????? Try with 8x rated TY or Verbatims, I'd suggest that. The Samsung isn't that bad, in most cases other things interfere into the burning quality such as cheap cables and PSU... __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

24-01-2006	#3 (permalink)
Quema34 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2005 Location: USS-Enterprise 1701-A--the finest starship ever Posts: 2,901	Re: which burner????? smi, from the scans I've seen with quality media on the BenQ 1655, I would recommend that one. It fixes some 16x burn issues over the 1640, and has just had another official firmware release. I do not think you would go wrong getting the 1655. __________________ "Sic vis pacem para bellum" "Lo único que vale en la vida es la pasión" "You sure you do not want to stay? You fight good for a tourist!" "Why do I feel like you truly see me, when others do not?" --Well, my horse likes you...!" "MY KIDS could teach YOU a thing or two, Johnny!!" "If the lie is big enough and told often enough, it will be believed."--Joseph Goebbels See what Geno888 is drooling over right now. I found Airhead's cookbook and all he did was edit my signature! Want to be better informed about good media, solving computer problems and DVD burner performance? Join CDFreaks by clicking here.

24-01-2006	#4 (permalink)
smi0815 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6	Re: which burner????? hmm... i thought so, that this burner is pretty good. but I´m not really skilled in these things. maybe this one: http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/pr...?artno=CEAQ24& I think the price is ok and what about plextor? I´ve heared, that they are also pretty good. but they´re very expensive, aren´t they?

24-01-2006	#5 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 23,950	Re: which burner????? The Plextors are good, even their new ones. But IMO the "legend" Plextor is suffering from the things they have done in the recent past... eg PxTools related things. Also the BenQ costs only a fracture of a similar Plextor. __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

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24-01-2006	#6 (permalink)
Quema34 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2005 Location: USS-Enterprise 1701-A--the finest starship ever Posts: 2,901	Re: which burner????? Smi, that is the correct burner: The BenQ DW-1655 Lightscribe. You might check if that store has a BenQ DW-1650, as it might be cheaper. The 1650 is the same as the 1655, except without the Lightscribe label-burning ability. The 1650 and 1655 are about the same in producing good quality burns, but it does seem the 1650 is better than the 1655 to a small degree. Because it is without Lightscribe (and if you can find it), the 1650 should be cheaper than the 1655. Plextor is expensive, and especially in America, Plextor's reputation is very poor, as with the 716a, some U.S. buyers had to RMA (return the drive to Plextor) up to 8 times to get a good burner. Another thing bad about Plextor is that Plextor is very slow about improving and updating its firmware. BenQ will release a new firmware about every 45 days, but you are lucky if Plextor releases a new firmware in 120 days. Also, the Plextor 755 is much slower in standard burning times. For example, a 8x-speed burn should take about 8 minutes, but the 755 needs 9 or more; a 12x burn should take about 6 min., 30 secs., but the 755 needs a minute more, or 7 minutes 30 seconds. So you not only pay more for a Plextor, but you are lucky if you get a new firmware release, and you cannot be guaranteed to get a good, quality working unit. I would basically eliminate Plextor from any consideration because of these reasons. __________________ "Sic vis pacem para bellum" "Lo único que vale en la vida es la pasión" "You sure you do not want to stay? You fight good for a tourist!" "Why do I feel like you truly see me, when others do not?" --Well, my horse likes you...!" "MY KIDS could teach YOU a thing or two, Johnny!!" "If the lie is big enough and told often enough, it will be believed."--Joseph Goebbels See what Geno888 is drooling over right now. I found Airhead's cookbook and all he did was edit my signature! Want to be better informed about good media, solving computer problems and DVD burner performance? Join CDFreaks by clicking here.

25-01-2006	#7 (permalink)
DaChew CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,253	Re: which burner????? there is one good plextor, and it's a benq

25-01-2006	#8 (permalink)
smi0815 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6	Re: which burner????? thank you very much!! that really helps!! I think I will buy the benQ. maybe I can even find the 1650, because I don´t really need lightscribe.

25-01-2006	#9 (permalink)
DaChew CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,253	Re: which burner????? I am beginning to think the benq 1650 is a figment of imagination!

25-01-2006	#10 (permalink)
schweino CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 275	Re: which burner????? Holy crap, 64 euros for a bulk 1655? Alternate.de must be mad. Here in The Netherlands the 1655 bulk is about 50 euros, the 1650 can even be found for as low as 43 euros. I would check out some other stored in .de if I were you mate.

26-01-2006	#11 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 23,950	Re: which burner????? http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a185070.html __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

29-01-2006	#12 (permalink)
smi0815 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6	Re: which burner????? what is the difference between bulk and retail? http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/pr...?artno=CEAQ27& or http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/pr...?artno=CEAQ25& bulk is even cheaper??

30-01-2006	#13 (permalink)
smi0815 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6	Re: which burner????? it´s ok I´ve already found the difference!!!

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