I'm going to burn WMV HD files onto DVDs so that I can watch them on my 360. I've found out that DVD-R DL don't work, I must use DVD+R DL discs. I was checking out the Top 5 burners list and thought about getting the Pioneer DVR-112D, but when I checked out the mini-review for it, it said the following for DVD+R DL:

"The Pioneer DVR-112D burned our 8x rated Verbatim media in 15 minutes and 16 seconds. Quality could be better, there is a large cluster of errors at the layer break and reading problems on the first layer of the disc"

That's using Verbatim which is supposed to be on of the best brands of discs around.

So should I go with another writer? I know the Lite-On LH-20A1H has a better DVD+R DL rating holds the second spot in the Top 5, but they don't seem to carry it in my area.

Burn them at 6x or 8x and they will be fine.

Samsung SH-S202G does very good job burning DL even non Verbatims.

Too the choice of the device for record DL of disks interests.
Someone did any comparisons on QUALITY of record ?
Basically record on Verbatim 2.4x MKM001 interests ...

With my drives and same Verbatim 2,4x DL+R of same package.
Pioneer111, Plextor PX-755A, LG E10L, LG H44N, , Samsung SH-S203B, LiteOn LH18 A1H in this range.

With Non Verbatim DL media best burner for me is LG H44N followed by Pioneer 111, Plextor PX-755A, LG E10L, Samsung SH-S203B, LiteOn LH18.

Samsung is ok as DL burner but far not as good as some people here think, esspecially if you scan with a Plextor where you can see jitter and beta and TA Scan as well, which is a weak of the Samsung burner, and good for Samsung not seen in the KProbe scans used in reviews.

What do you think of Lite-On LH-20A1H

burn @2.4

That is a good scan, but it needs to be a full disc and where is the layer change?

I have heard the LiteOn LH-20A1H is a pretty good dual layer burner. I wouldn't recommend burning any dual layers over 2.4X anyway.

Something has exchanged for this period of time, whether there was any leader?

^^^ pioneer 115D is the new leader

I agree or 215D SATA

achemen
Burnsama
can you post scan (MKM-001 or MKM-003)?

Another vote for Pioneer 115D.

Pioneer 115D. In fact, my 115D is a dedicated DL burner (that's all I use it for).

Chk this Thread mate
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f87/pioneer...s-here-232284/

same there BenQ for SL burning & Pio 115D for DL

pinto2
MID: MKM001 (Verbatim branded, MIS)
Type: DVD+R9 2.4x rated (8x max in firmware)
Burned with: CD Speed 4.7.7.5 Create disc
Burned 6x
Burn time: 20'48''
Write Strategy; default
Pre-burn calibration: 26''
Drive/Firmware: DVR-115D@115 /1.18_T2
Testing 6x CAV write strategy, heh.



Okay guys, FordMan was aiming at the 6x CAV write strategie (as in his recent posts...)Thanks FordMan, taking us all this long.
MID: MKM001 (Verbatim branded, MIS) not the best batch, me thinks.
Type: DVD+R9 2.4x rated (8x max in firmware)
Burned with: CD Speed 4.7.7.5 Create disc
Burned 6x (CAV)
Burn time: 19'20''
Write Strategy; MKM001@003
Pre-burn calibration: 29''
Drive/Firmware: DVR-115D@115 /1.18_T2 my thanks to ala42
Testing 6x CAV write strategy again, FordMan, think you got your 6xCAV write srategy here.


chief-techie
Burning Program: Imgburn 2.4.1.0
Burning Drive: Pioneer 115D 1.13
Scanning Drive: BenQ 1650 BCIC
Burning & Scan Speed: 6x & 8x
DVD Brand & Media ID : Verbatim DVD+R DL ,8x rated,MKM 003,Made In Singapore

VANT
Verbatim +R DL 2.4x burn 4x on pioneer 115D



pinto2
Whom to trust...?
Okay guys, here comes a MKM001 @8x burn on DVR-115D holding a movie backup. None of my standalones or my PS2 can play this disc back past layerbreak. Still my Litey "says" it's a readable burn. Go figure.

MID: MKM001 (Verbatim made in Singapore)
Type: DVD+R DL 2.4x rated (8x in firmware)
Burned with: CD Speed 4.7.7.5 Create disc
Burned @:8x
Burn time: 17' 52''
Pre-burn calibration: 30''
Drive/Firmware: DVR-115D /1.18 ala42 patched
- Note, nothing in this burn is related to the patch.

r_saotome
Recently bought a 20-pack of Verbatim DL media @ BB for $25, all I can say is...WOW! Best DL burn I've EVER HAD!
Double checking this with my Samsung & BenQ drives just to make sure this wasn't a fluke.
Update: NOT A FLUKE, 2nd scan is from the Samsung Drive.
Burner: Pioneer DVR-115D - FW 1.18
Media: Verbatim DVD+R DL 2.4x @ 4x (MIS, MKM001)

I was thinking of getting a Optiarc AD-7200A, does anyone know if thats good? Any new recommendations, didn't want to open a new thread.

@ZakMcRofl

The 7200A is also very good with MKM media.

what do you say about Pioneer 216 ?

My 215 does a great job with dual layer media, so i guess that the 216 should do the same.

vroom
post you scan please (1-2 disks)

Here is the scan, this is a MII MKM003 burned at 4x with IMGBurn , has a perfect TRT.

vroom
a disc MKM001 you do not?
I have to NEC 4550A recording quality even better.
I had hoped that the PIF errors in the 215 will be far less up to 800 =: (

Well i don't have any MKM001 burns, but MKM003 burns are very good.

PIF less than 800 should be a perfect burn (and it is), but very hard to get, even with MKM media, i only once go 552 PIF with my 7200A, the rest of my burns are from 1000-2000 PIF.