Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... - Club CDFreaks

jimcpl · 20-03-2005

Hi,

I just got a TS-H552B last week to put into a system that I'm building for a relative as a gift. She lives on the "other" coast so I'm trying to give her a system that'll be reliable and I know that works.

I just got around to trying to burn some DVD+R and DVD-R this weekend, and initially ran into problems with both. The burn would complete, but then verify would always fail. This was with some 8x DVD+R that I had from Microcenter ("Platinum", shows up as "Verbatim" in Nero Info) and some 4x DVD-R (from CompUSA). Upgrading Nero to 6.6.x didn't help.

I was about to give up and maybe go buy a different drive, but I found firmware TS08 on Samsung's ODD (funny acronym

) website. I flashed the drive to TS08 from the original TS05, and then tried burns with the 8x DVD+R and the 4x DVD-R again, and everything including the verify worked. Also the resulting DVD+R and DVD-R were both readable on a DVD drive on my laptop (Compaq).

The problem that I noticed was that when I was burning the 4x DVD-R, Nero only offered 2x as the burn speed with no choice to change.

My son tried these same 4x DVD-R on his PC with a different burner (not sure which) and it burned at 4x.

Does anyone know if there is something I can do to enable the TS-H552B to burn DVD-R at higher than 2x?

I haven't tried any CD-R yet, but will today.

If the only problem is that it won't burn DVD-R faster than 2x, it'll probably be ok for her, but I just want to have it work reliably (so she doesn't call me to fix it

).

Thanks in advance, Jim

black_udder · 21-03-2005

check if dma is properly enabled.
cheers

jimcpl · 21-03-2005

Hi,

Yes, DMA is enabled and shows "Ultra DMA Mode" (this is Win2K). One of the 1st things I checked when I installed the OS.

Plus, as I mentioned in my original post, it IS able to burn DVD+R as 8x. It's just the DVD-R writing that is stuck at 2x.

Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Jim

*ala42* · 21-03-2005

Your -R media might not be supported for higher speeds. Use DVD Identifier to read the media code of the -R disk.

jimcpl · 21-03-2005

ala,

DVD Identifier didn't have it in its database, but could only identify the manufacturer as AML.

I tried another program, DvdInfoPro, and got the following:

Code:

                            Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                            AML
Format Capacity                                                Blank Disc
Free Blocks                                                     412352512
Free Capacity                                              4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type                                                           DVD-R
Media Type                                                          DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                  4.0x   5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  2.0x   2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed                                        4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta                                                      0B
2x Speed OPC power                                                     10
2x Write Strategy field 1                                     11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2                               88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta                                                      06
4x Speed OPC power                                                     17
4x Write Strategy field 1                                     0D 0F 0B 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2                                     98 08 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3                                     00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse                                          06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse                                         1C
4x Write Strategy field 4                                     13 A8 88 65
4x Write Strategy field 5                               98 9A 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6                                  00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1
                                                                         
                           Complete Media Code                           
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0E 15 .l...@....R.....
00000010 98 9A 90 00 03 41 4D 4C 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 .....AML........
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 CC C0 00 00 00 01 00 06 0B 10 11 ................

It looks like it's a 4x?

Jim

black_udder · 21-03-2005

firmware supports aml -R only at 2x

Cheers

jimcpl · 21-03-2005

black_udder,

Pls don't get me wrong, but how do you know that? Is it documented somewhere?

BTW, I also found this post:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....t=ts-h552b+aml

where it shows a "TS-H552B DVD-R Media List", and it seems to indicate "AML" and speed "4"?

Jim

*ala42* · 21-03-2005

Code:

Manufacturer Rated Speed                                  4.0x   5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  2.0x   2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed                                        4.0x 5540KBps

There is no Available Write Descriptor for 4x.

black_udder · 21-03-2005

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=31790

cheers

*ala42* · 21-03-2005

Forget this list as it is obviously buggy. Get the latest MCSE (see signature) and use it on the firmware you use and let's hope it is accurate this time

.

jimcpl · 21-03-2005

ala,

I gather that the latest version (1.0.4.2 19) doesn't support the TS08 firmware yet (understandable since it seems it came out just last week

)?

Jim

*ala42* · 21-03-2005

I have checked TS08 and US05 after 1.0.4.2 was released, they seam to work.

jimcpl · 21-03-2005

ala,

Thanks.

Just for my understanding, what does it mean where "Manufacturer Rated Speed" and "Write Strategy Speed" are 4, but "Available Write Descriptor" is 2x?

Do you think that this is just because the media manufacturer forgot to set the "Available Write Descriptor" for 4x, or are they (the manufacturer) trying to say that this media should only be written at 2x (CLV), even though the other two parameters say that the media is 4x?

Jim

**OC-Freak** · 21-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimcpl

ala,

Thanks.

Just for my understanding, what does it mean where "Manufacturer Rated Speed" and "Write Strategy Speed" are 4, but "Available Write Descriptor" is 2x?

Do you think that this is just because the media manufacturer forgot to set the "Available Write Descriptor" for 4x, or are they (the manufacturer) trying to say that this media should only be written at 2x (CLV), even though the other two parameters say that the media is 4x?

Jim

Available write descriptors is what speeds that the firmware of the samsung supports for this media. It's nothing that can be set on the media.

BTW - the quality of the AML media is extremely poor - that is most likely why samsung limits the speed to 2x.

jimcpl · 21-03-2005

OC-Freak,

Thanks for the info.

Re. the quality of the AML DVD-R, understood. As I mentioned in my original post, this burner is going into a system that I'm building for a relative.

She wants a DVD burner in the system, but this is the first time I've worked with one, and so I wanted to check it out so that when I passed it along to her, I had some idea of how it would work. So, when I bought the media at a really good price, I figured that it'd give me a chance to mess around with the burner, give the burner a workout, and get some experience (which I guess I'm getting "the hard way"

).

Overall, I really do appreciate all of the help here. You all have been great, especially with all my questions!!

Jim

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jimcpl CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 36	Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Hi, I just got a TS-H552B last week to put into a system that I'm building for a relative as a gift. She lives on the "other" coast so I'm trying to give her a system that'll be reliable and I know that works. I just got around to trying to burn some DVD+R and DVD-R this weekend, and initially ran into problems with both. The burn would complete, but then verify would always fail. This was with some 8x DVD+R that I had from Microcenter ("Platinum", shows up as "Verbatim" in Nero Info) and some 4x DVD-R (from CompUSA). Upgrading Nero to 6.6.x didn't help. I was about to give up and maybe go buy a different drive, but I found firmware TS08 on Samsung's ODD (funny acronym ) website. I flashed the drive to TS08 from the original TS05, and then tried burns with the 8x DVD+R and the 4x DVD-R again, and everything including the verify worked. Also the resulting DVD+R and DVD-R were both readable on a DVD drive on my laptop (Compaq). The problem that I noticed was that when I was burning the 4x DVD-R, Nero only offered 2x as the burn speed with no choice to change. My son tried these same 4x DVD-R on his PC with a different burner (not sure which) and it burned at 4x. Does anyone know if there is something I can do to enable the TS-H552B to burn DVD-R at higher than 2x? I haven't tried any CD-R yet, but will today. If the only problem is that it won't burn DVD-R faster than 2x, it'll probably be ok for her, but I just want to have it work reliably (so she doesn't call me to fix it ). Thanks in advance, Jim Last edited by jimcpl; 20-03-2005 at 23:40.

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black_udder New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... check if dma is properly enabled. cheers

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jimcpl CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 36	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... Hi, Yes, DMA is enabled and shows "Ultra DMA Mode" (this is Win2K). One of the 1st things I checked when I installed the OS. Plus, as I mentioned in my original post, it IS able to burn DVD+R as 8x. It's just the DVD-R writing that is stuck at 2x. Any other ideas? Thanks, Jim

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ala42 MediaCodeSpeedEdit Author Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 4,264	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... Your -R media might not be supported for higher speeds. Use DVD Identifier to read the media code of the -R disk. __________________ LiteOn/Benq/LG/NEC/Pioneer/Samsung/Toshiba stuff: MediaCodeSpeedEdit V 1.1.0.18, released August 3rd 2008

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black_udder New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... firmware supports aml -R only at 2x Cheers

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jimcpl CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 36	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... black_udder, Pls don't get me wrong, but how do you know that? Is it documented somewhere? BTW, I also found this post: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....t=ts-h552b+aml where it shows a "TS-H552B DVD-R Media List", and it seems to indicate "AML" and speed "4"? Jim

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ala42 MediaCodeSpeedEdit Author Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 4,264	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... Code: Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps There is no Available Write Descriptor for 4x. __________________ LiteOn/Benq/LG/NEC/Pioneer/Samsung/Toshiba stuff: MediaCodeSpeedEdit V 1.1.0.18, released August 3rd 2008

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black_udder New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=31790 cheers

21-03-2005	#10 (permalink)
ala42 MediaCodeSpeedEdit Author Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 4,264	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... Forget this list as it is obviously buggy. Get the latest MCSE (see signature) and use it on the firmware you use and let's hope it is accurate this time . __________________ LiteOn/Benq/LG/NEC/Pioneer/Samsung/Toshiba stuff: MediaCodeSpeedEdit V 1.1.0.18, released August 3rd 2008

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jimcpl CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 36	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... ala, I gather that the latest version (1.0.4.2 19) doesn't support the TS08 firmware yet (understandable since it seems it came out just last week )? Jim

21-03-2005	#12 (permalink)
ala42 MediaCodeSpeedEdit Author Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 4,264	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... I have checked TS08 and US05 after 1.0.4.2 was released, they seam to work. __________________ LiteOn/Benq/LG/NEC/Pioneer/Samsung/Toshiba stuff: MediaCodeSpeedEdit V 1.1.0.18, released August 3rd 2008

21-03-2005	#13 (permalink)
jimcpl CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 36	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... ala, Thanks. Just for my understanding, what does it mean where "Manufacturer Rated Speed" and "Write Strategy Speed" are 4, but "Available Write Descriptor" is 2x? Do you think that this is just because the media manufacturer forgot to set the "Available Write Descriptor" for 4x, or are they (the manufacturer) trying to say that this media should only be written at 2x (CLV), even though the other two parameters say that the media is 4x? Jim

21-03-2005	#15 (permalink)
jimcpl CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 36	Re: Newbie here: Got TS-H552B working but... OC-Freak, Thanks for the info. Re. the quality of the AML DVD-R, understood. As I mentioned in my original post, this burner is going into a system that I'm building for a relative. She wants a DVD burner in the system, but this is the first time I've worked with one, and so I wanted to check it out so that when I passed it along to her, I had some idea of how it would work. So, when I bought the media at a really good price, I figured that it'd give me a chance to mess around with the burner, give the burner a workout, and get some experience (which I guess I'm getting "the hard way" ). Overall, I really do appreciate all of the help here. You all have been great, especially with all my questions!! Jim

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