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Old 20-03-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Weird problem

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Please Insert the disk to write to...
Disk required for the compilation: CD-R/RW
Disk type in the recorder: CD-RW
check the attacked image.

I get this weird problem when I try to burn somthing on CD-R(W). I have tried different types of media, different CD-R types and different CD-RWs. I get the same message everytime I try to burn somthing either an image or a compilation in nero.

Help will be appreciated.
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OS: Slackware 10.1
Burner: NEC ND-3520
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Old 21-03-2005   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Weird problem

I have the same Problem with DVD's. Could be a Problem with the chipset.
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Old 21-03-2005   #3 (permalink)
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I just tryied with a NEC ND-3520A to burn 200MB of data in ISO on a CD-RW. Nothing weird happened. Media is correctly recognized and erased before burn process start.

Can you provide me the following infos:
- kernel version (uname -a)
- lspci dump so that I can see your IDE chipset reference and try to test it on the same machine.
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ya sure. I use slackware 10.1. It comes with unpatched 2.6.10 and that's what I'm using right now.

And here is lspci's output:

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00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333]
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP]
00:06.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 50)
00:06.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 50)
00:06.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51)
00:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 23)
00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 23)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 40)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)

Note: as the screenshot shows, nero obviously can recognize my media, and I forgot to mention the other day that the CDRW I was using (in the screeny) was actually erased successfully using nero.
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Re: Weird problem

What is the media your are using (manufacturer - type...) ? Is it always the same ?

So if I resume:
- NeroLINUX can erase your CD-RW
- NeroLINUX cannot write on it

I'm right ?
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Old 21-03-2005   #6 (permalink)
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At first I tried burning an image on a Sony CD-R using nero, but it didn't work giving me the same thing above (you need CD-R to burn this. You have CD-R in drive.). Then I tried Sony and HP CDRWs without getting any different result. I was using a mini cdrw (Branded 'Meloody') when I took that screeny.

And you're right. It erases the CD, but it won't burn on it.
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So.. What system permissions affect nero? I just tried burning somthing with root, it didn't complain like it did before. It just burned it successfully.
I can burn as a normal user using all other *nix burning tools, makes me wonder why.
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So.. What system permissions affect nero? I just tried burning somthing with root, it didn't complain like it did before. It just burned it successfully.
I can burn as a normal user using all other *nix burning tools, makes me wonder why.
Hummm.... really weird. As if something was conflicting when NeroLINUX wanted to burn on the device. Normall RW perms on the /dev/hdX device corresponding to your recorder is sufficient.
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Permissions on my devices are sufficient. Nero shouldn't have a problem if that's the only thing it needs. And shouldn't nero warn me about permission problems instead of that stupid message? It knows the drive contains a CD-R but it still asks me to put a CD-R in because it needs a CD-R.. I'm puzzeled
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I'm still waiting for freedback. I'm ready if there is anything I can do to help in solving the problem.
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Extrange situation :P

If you can write with nero with root seems to be permissions.
You say that you cant write with other tools, probably cdrecord have the suid bit, so it runs with root permissions, look if cdrecord hace the suid bit on, you can search for it with:
find / -type f \( -perm -04000 \) -print
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I know my system well. cdrecord and cdrdao don't have suid bit. I setup permissions _on the device_ so that a user can write on the device without trouble. It works with everything i've tried except nerolinux. Myabe it's trying to access a file it doesn't have permissions to while it's checking the media. I'm not going to use nero as root all the time..
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I'm sure that you know your system well, but the rest of us no, so I you don't give all the information we have to ask for it to try to help your with your problem :\
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Hello!

I'm experiencing similar problems with NeroLINUX 2.0.0.0 on Fedora Core 3. I tried to burn the DVD-ISO-Image of FC3 (FC3-i386-DVD.iso) on either DVD-R and DVD+RW. The message I got is that the required disk type is CD-R/CD-RW, which actually is a little bit too small for the 2.4 GB Image ;-) Other than reported I keep getting this message with root privileges as well. As I am in desperate need of the installation DVD, I hope that a solution for this problem has been found in the meantime! Some data of my machine:

[root@startrek ~]# uname -r
2.6.10-1.770_FC3

[root@startrek ~]# cdrecord -scanbus
[..]
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) *
0,1,0 1) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-106 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
scsibus1:
1,0,0 100) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GSA-4081B' 'A101' Removable CD-ROM
1,1,0 101) *
1,2,0 102) *
1,3,0 103) *
1,4,0 104) *
1,5,0 105) *
1,6,0 106) *
1,7,0 107) *

[root@startrek ~]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE Host-to-AGP Bridge (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] (Secondary)
02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5702X Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02)
02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)
02:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 08)

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Re: Weird problem

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I'm sure that you know your system well, but the rest of us no, so I you don't give all the information we have to ask for it to try to help your with your problem :\
I appreciate what you're doing. I really do. But what was the infomation you needed and asked for and I didn't provide? you can tell me
Oh ya.. The one about cdrecord permissions.. (I said this before) I don't have suid root on neither cdrecord(prodvd) nor cdrdao and I just double checked to make sure, not even growisofs and its associated tools.

Anything else?
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Hello!
I'm experiencing similar problems with NeroLINUX 2.0.0.0 on Fedora Core 3. I tried to burn the DVD-ISO-Image of FC3 (FC3-i386-DVD.iso) on either DVD-R and DVD+RW. The message I got is that the required disk type is CD-R/CD-RW, which actually is a little bit too small for the 2.4 GB Image ;-) Other than reported I keep getting this message with root privileges as well
Hello Indy05,
It's weird that nero is asking for CD-R/CD-RW if you're burning a DVD. I'm suspecting (and I could be wrong) that you havn't chosen the correct "Medium type" in the recording options. Check it out and tell us .
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Oh yes! You're right! Thank you for your excellent help! Now it works perfect! In fact I didn't expect those settings to take effect on burning an ISO-Image as the burning process always starts immediately after selecting an ISO-File... The great thing is it works, yeah!

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Re: Weird problem

A problem comparable to one I've posted recently:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=131325

Now since it's not just me complaining about those weired and confusing kind of settings causing funny problems I think they have to really improve the config-dialogs.
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I was having the exact same problem with dvds, I was wondering if anyone had been able to figure this out. If it helps anyone, I added my lspci output below. I was able burn a dvd with k3b without a problem. I am using Debian 2.6.10 "unstable". I have tried to using different brands of dvd media, but to no avail. If anyone needs more information, let me know. (Also, I did change the format to DVD instead of CD, in case anyone thought that was my mistake).

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0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) (rev c1)
0000:00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (rev c1)0000:00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev c1)0000:00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev c1)0000:00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev c1)0000:00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev c1)0000:00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge (rev a4)
0000:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce2 SMBus (MCP) (rev a2)
0000:00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
0000:00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
0000:00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
0000:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)
0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via VT82C686B] (rev a2)
0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
0000:00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI Bridge (rev a3)0000:00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (rev a2)
0000:00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 PCI Bridge (rev a3)
0000:00:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): nVidia Corporation nForce2 FireWire (IEEE 1394) Controller (rev a3)
0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev c1)
0000:01:07.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20268 (Ultra100 TX2) (rev 02)
0000:01:09.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
0000:01:0b.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. (formerly CMD Technology Inc) SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02)
0000:02:01.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller [Tornado] (rev 40)
0000:03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]
0000:03:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] (Secondary)
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I just tried it from root, and this time no error message. I guess something is wrong with my permissions, or the way nero looks at them. Any ideas what I need to change?
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I just tried with a debian patched 2.6.10-6 kernel. I made a quick check with a data CD and a data DVD on RW medias and everything went fine. (kernel .config file attached).
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I just tried with a debian patched 2.6.10-6 kernel. I made a quick check with a data CD and a data DVD on RW medias and everything went fine. (kernel .config file attached).
So you're saying it's a kernel thing? I just tried and built a kernel with your config (minor changes to suit my system) but I still get the same problem. Nero stops while checking for the media and asks for the appropriate media to be inserted although it knows the media is there. Root has no problems still..

Maybe I'll upgrade to slackware current with the latest 2.6.11 revision. I'll give more feedback when switch.
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So you're saying it's a kernel thing? I just tried and built a kernel with your config (minor changes to suit my system) but I still get the same problem. Nero stops while checking for the media and asks for the appropriate media to be inserted although it knows the media is there. Root has no problems still..

Maybe I'll upgrade to slackware current with the latest 2.6.11 revision. I'll give more feedback when switch.
I try to reproduce your problem on a similar machine,with the same distro and specs ( but the burner is a 3500 not a 3520 ) and no problem :\

On my home machine ( 2.6.11.5 kernel ) no problem too.
If you want my .config file I can upload it.
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@undertow: As the thread's title says, it's a weird problem. I have no idea why it's not doing what it should do and I know it's not a problem with my kernel config. I'm going to switch to slackware current sooner or later, but I wished there was a solution for this (maybe this is a hidden bug?).
Isn't there a way to get nero to output debug messages? another nero version specially compiled for this? anything. I want to get this resolved, so I'm offering my help.

Tell me before I start switching
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