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| New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2005
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| I'm about to give up SONY DVD RW DRU-720A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive I've had this drive for months, and haven't been able to burn squat on it yet. Now it's in a state where NeroLinux doesn't even recognize any media. I'm on a Fedora Core 3 box, kernel 2.6.13.1. Do I need to turn this into a dual boot and install |
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| CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Germany
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| Re: I'm about to give up This is not about your problem but a general thing I wanted to say: Why is everyone complaining about software not working if he/she is always updating the OS to the latest, sometimes even bleeding edge, revisions? Say: "Oh, I updated to the newest glibc beta-batch that has just appeared on the cvs about 15 minutes ago. Why the hell is NeroLinux so damn stupid and does not even see my writer!!" Wouldn't it be sometimes not better to just stay with a working system for a little while? I could emerge my Gentoo boxes several times a day, but what for? If I would do so, I know from experience, I would run into more trouble than good (since it's not just NeroLINUX refusing to work after some updates). If updating is what a lot of people need, precompiled software like NeroLINUX will never be what you need. Give the devs a little time to react and adopt to new Linux base-system software. Otherwise get yourself a windows box .. which by the way you for some reason do not update every day ... may that be the reason windows or even mac software just works sometimes? ![]() |
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| Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Earth
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| Re: I'm about to give up Quote:
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| Re: I'm about to give up Quote:
K3b also fails to work, so I'm pretty aware it's not NeroLinux per se. Quote:
Fedora Core 1, 2 and 3 Kernels ranging from 2.4.21-2.6.13 with at least 14 stops in between Every NeroLinux available since September A year's worth of K3b A year's worth of dbd+rw-tools Why have I been upgrading things? To find something that works Trust me my friend...if I could burn a dual layer DVD and start using this hardware I bought specifically to back up the 1.3 TB of music I have in my system, I'd never upgrade again. If you are using a 720A successfully, please let me know what version of kernel/tools you are using. Thank you. ~Jeff | ||
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| Re: I'm about to give up I don't know, but it's a "simple' atapi device which should be recognized anyways. Did you tried stock kernels with fc3 (2.6.13 is not an official fc3 kernel right?). Else you might try to upgrade to fc4 (which rocks imho ) |
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| Re: I'm about to give up This is my fresh install of Fedora Core 4 and my DRU-720A. Nerolinux will read the capacity of a Dual Layer DVD no problem. When I burn, it will take a minute or so, then pop up a box telling me that I need to put the correct media in (CDR, CDRW, DL+DVD), and that I currently have in a DL+DVD. It simply will not accept that the correct media is there, no matter how many times I reload. K3b reports this: -------------------- :-[ READ DISC INFORMATION failed with SK=4h/ASC=08h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error |
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| NeroLinux Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004
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| Re: I'm about to give up Have you tried flashing the firmware of your device? Sometimes, when a DVD+R DL is not correctly recognized, it is a firmware problem.... BtW, I have an external Sony DRU-720A on my desk. No problem at all, in USB2 or FireWire... |
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| CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mt.Prospect, ILLINOIS
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| Re: I'm about to give up Ain't that a pain? They should ALWAYS provide a DOS image or something for a floppy or USB-stick....that way you can always flash firmware. I have a couple of Plextor drives...I still have Windblows on there so I can update the firmware...they have a Windows and MAC version...but no Linux version. If they did it the old way, it wouldn't matter. Time to petition? Firmware is the key, I bet...in this case.. |
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| Re: I'm about to give up Update for those who care: I went through the hassle of installing W2K on an old box we had laying around. Pulled the DRU-720A out of my linux machine, put it in the W2K box, and flashed it to the latest firmware from Sony. Moved it back into my linux box, and rebooted. Here's some results of trying to burn: Burn onto a DVD+RW media: Nero tells me it's not blank (I just pulled the shrinkwrap off of it), and asks if it should blank it. Attempting to hangs nero until I kill it. Any attempt to use the "Erase rewritable disc" silently fails with no good information Burn onto a DVD+R disc: click 'Burn'. Nero spends a full minute before coming back and telling me that I need a DVD+R/RW or a DVD-R/RW, and the DVD+R I have in there won't work. Burn onto a DVD+R-DL. Same result. doesn't like my media, says it wants a DVD+R/RW or DVD-R/RW. FYI, attempts to burn with K3B still give me: :-[ READ DISC INFORMATION failed with SK=4h/ASC=08h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error Any more bright ideas? We know it's not firmware now, and these results are consistent with a variety of 2.6.11-2.6.13 kernels. |
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| Re: I'm about to give up Well something must be different between your pc and the one from matf, mayb do some comparing? Maybe kernel (would not be the first time they changed again something in kernel)?!?! Last edited by johnny2000; 25-09-2005 at 15:24. |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 3rd Stone
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| Re: I'm about to give up just some guesses; does any other burner work in the linux system ? does the Sony burner burn in the win2k system ? how are your IDE cables (try new) - and jumpers
__________________ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------------------- "The world according to DRM Bozos" I am a consumer, I'll buy anything I am a sheep, I am cattle, I follow the herd I am ignorant, a dumbass, and I am a bozo... I am the epitome of the 'rank and file' I am your next door neighbor I am 95% of American Consumers I will consume you ---------------------------- "If the light in your head hasn't come on yet, I suggest you go get a new bulb..." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |
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| Re: I'm about to give up Quote:
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| Re: I'm about to give up Quote:
LOGICAL UNIT COMMUNICATION CRC ERROR (ULTRA-DMA/32) FWIW.... | |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 3rd Stone
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| Re: I'm about to give up dang - i'm too new to linux to tell ya exactly for diagnosing (only fiddled with knoppix so far) some other thoughts - commands like ' lspci ' (in a console) to list all the pci devices / hardware and others i can't recall if that might help -- b/c i'm thinking along the lines of a Bad UDMA mode on None at all (as in FPIO/PIO mode) - be certain the BIOS lists it as "Auto" - or ATAPI/CDROM, in other words - you do NOT want it using Multi-sector/tranfer (16 usually) or LBA like HDDs do -- though you DO want DMA mode 4/Multiword and UltraDMA Mode 2 or 4 (I just don't know for that burner) - a long shot - but try the burner as Master (don't forget the jumpers )-also Logical unit is reminiscent of an scsi lun (logical user number - iirc) - and a CRC is a "cyclic redundancy check" error - atapi/cd/dvd drives are seen as scsi devices by the system...though no help in that info, i know using KDE as desktop ? - if so - can Control Center and/or InfoCenter yield any pertitnent info ?
__________________ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------------------- "The world according to DRM Bozos" I am a consumer, I'll buy anything I am a sheep, I am cattle, I follow the herd I am ignorant, a dumbass, and I am a bozo... I am the epitome of the 'rank and file' I am your next door neighbor I am 95% of American Consumers I will consume you ---------------------------- "If the light in your head hasn't come on yet, I suggest you go get a new bulb..." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 3rd Stone
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| Re: I'm about to give up also - i'm thinking that it's the mt. rainier standard, if any standard that's borking you, since that's the ms/sony/hp/philips consortium (+ media (?)) -- mt. fuji is more toshiba/pioneer/matsushita (- media (?)). for kicks, i d/l this 796 page PDF, concerning the mt. fuji standard from pioneer's ftp site HERE - PDF or ZIP available...I grabbed the latest ["Fuji6r095_diff.pdf 6639 KB 9/15/05 1:03:00 AM"]. The d/l server is like dialup though ![]() as best i can tell on quick perusal, those hex error numbers you posted (03h,08h, 4h) - if related to mt. fuji can be tracked down somehow amongst all those pages - guesses from me include MSF (Minute/Second/Frame) info - Write-Protect info - and Removable Media info....but perhaps other stuff as well, like PCA (power calibration area) - but these are just off-handed guesses.
__________________ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------------------- "The world according to DRM Bozos" I am a consumer, I'll buy anything I am a sheep, I am cattle, I follow the herd I am ignorant, a dumbass, and I am a bozo... I am the epitome of the 'rank and file' I am your next door neighbor I am 95% of American Consumers I will consume you ---------------------------- "If the light in your head hasn't come on yet, I suggest you go get a new bulb..." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |
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| New on Forum Join Date: Sep 2005
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| Re: I'm about to give up Same problem here, i have Debian Sarge with the 2.6.8 Kernel. When i want to burn i get the mesage please insert a blank CDR(W) Disk. So the disk are blank. K3B works fine, i only want nerolinux tu burn bin/cue images of svcds, because with k3b i have problems. On an other computer with Suse Linux 9.3 Nero Linux works fine, so it is a question of the kernel? I dont want to upgrade my kernel in Sarge or is there no other chance? I hope the next Nerolinux version works fine. I think many have the problem with the mesage in Nerolinux that the media are not blank. In this Forum are 4 posting about that problem i think. So it cant be a matter of the Firmware. Hope some of you have an result. |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 3rd Stone
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| Re: I'm about to give up Can you guys Burn succeessfully when Booted to a Live CD ? btw - most ppl frown upon thread hijacking - i make no accusations though, especilly due to relevance - it's entirely up to the OP ![]()
__________________ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------------------- "The world according to DRM Bozos" I am a consumer, I'll buy anything I am a sheep, I am cattle, I follow the herd I am ignorant, a dumbass, and I am a bozo... I am the epitome of the 'rank and file' I am your next door neighbor I am 95% of American Consumers I will consume you ---------------------------- "If the light in your head hasn't come on yet, I suggest you go get a new bulb..." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 3rd Stone
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| Re: I'm about to give up hmmm...any info worth-while/applicable here ? http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146044
__________________ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------------------- "The world according to DRM Bozos" I am a consumer, I'll buy anything I am a sheep, I am cattle, I follow the herd I am ignorant, a dumbass, and I am a bozo... I am the epitome of the 'rank and file' I am your next door neighbor I am 95% of American Consumers I will consume you ---------------------------- "If the light in your head hasn't come on yet, I suggest you go get a new bulb..." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |
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| New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2005
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| Re: I'm about to give up Quote:
This is the first piece of hardware I've completely failed at getting to work....Damn it's frustrating! | |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 3rd Stone
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| Re: I'm about to give up after a quick review -- and since you said Quote:
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) in another forum (specific SONY perhaps - do we have one here ? )
__________________ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------------------- "The world according to DRM Bozos" I am a consumer, I'll buy anything I am a sheep, I am cattle, I follow the herd I am ignorant, a dumbass, and I am a bozo... I am the epitome of the 'rank and file' I am your next door neighbor I am 95% of American Consumers I will consume you ---------------------------- "If the light in your head hasn't come on yet, I suggest you go get a new bulb..." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | ||
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| New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2005
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| Re: I'm about to give up In an effort to find a way to flash my DRU-720A without using Windows I stumbled on this thread. My DRU-720A works flawlessly in Slackware 10.2 (testing kernel 2.6.13) using K3b. I previously had a DRU-710A which had internal problems and Sony replaced it with the DRU-720A. Hope that helps! P.S. You might have said if the drive burned in Windows above, but if not, see if the drive will burn anything in Windows...might be a hardware problem, as was my DRU-710A. |
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