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Old 16-12-2004   #1 (permalink)
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LVW-5005 Can't re-author or shrink on PC

I have a LVW-5005 and have not been able to re-author a finished disk on computer using DVD-Shrink, DVD-Decrypter or any of the usual methods I use. Can someone tell me how I can re-author to remove menus and duplicate with PC burner?
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DVD-shrink works for me mate although first method I tired was dvd-decrypter but in ISO mode not files mode. Hve you tried that?
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When I use Shrink it says it can't find BUP file If I use dvd-decrypter it copys files and then I can't burn. If I use dvd-decrypter in ISO mode can I omit the menu or is it an exact copy?
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It will be an exact copy but then I can extract the file from the iso and edit it that way. I think the problem with shrink might be with your dvd rom which probably cant see how the liteon writes files correctly?
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Re: LVW-5005 Can't re-author or shrink on PC

Sorry if you've already tried this, but have you put DVD Decryptor into 'IFO' Mode from the drop-down menus? This is the format the files and menus are written in on the DVD.

I've been recording and ripping mpeg files to my PC this way since I got my writer. I haven't finalised one DVD on my writer yet, I've re-authored them all on my PC!

If you can't see any files on the DVD when you double click on the DVD drive icon in windows or windows explorer, then your drive may not be able to read it, and you may need to use another drive....
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I'm still not having any luck with any disk from LVW-5005. All disks that I do on my Panasonic DMR-E60 work fine on PC. I am using an NEC ND-2510A on computer and I can't Decrypt or shrink anything from LiteOn standalone recorder. If I try do decrypt it bombs out and says read errors. I was also wondering what this RM folder is on disks from LiteOn and if there is anything that I could do in setup to make the disks record differently.
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Re: LVW-5005 Can't re-author or shrink on PC

What kind of computer are you using.
I have been trying, unsuccessfully as you have (with all the same tools, dvd shrink, decryptor ect) to copy my Liteon 5001 dvd's. With no success.
I have a brand new Dell.
My brother took the same dvd home that keeps failing on my computer, and was successful with his computer (a home made computer all different parts)

I wonder if it has anything to do with the read and write drives in the Dell? And I'm wondering if I need to call Dell on this. I shouldn't be having these problems on my brand new Dell computer.

Also won't recognize my digital camera at all, where my old computer did!!
Help.
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Old 21-12-2004   #9 (permalink)
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It is mostlikely down to your pcs dvd rom / writer. It is probably not capable of reading back the liteon dvds becuase of the way it writes them which is different to how pcs etc write them. Its not a fault of your pc at all, its just a quirk of the otherwsie excellent liteons
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Re: LVW-5005 Can't re-author or shrink on PC

Also bear in mind that NEC Writers are generally not good readers, even when it comes to disks they've written. I have a LVW-5005, but haven't ever had cause to try what your doing, however I did have similar problems with a Philips DVD-890, in that I couldn't extracts the VOBs from the DVD with DVD Decrypter, however I have to say I put that down to the discs being by Bulkpaq...i.e. complete and utter shite! We all presume you are using a Lite-ON recommended disc for the procedure? Also is it -R or +R?
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The LVW-5005 took a hike when I tried to update firmware so I am waiting for a new one but it didn't matter if disk was + - or RW I also tried a TDK +R +RW drive to read from and still no luck. All I know is I have no problem with the Panasonic standalone but it wont work properly with DV from my camera. thanks for the replys.












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I have a few more related questions.
If I use decrypter in ISO mode, what do I used to edit and/or burn the dvd's with then.
Usually when I use the decrypter it will do some of the dvd, but won't finish because of read errors.but, just in case. .
I use an +RW memorex.

But it's the same DVD I gave my brother to try with decrypter with his computer. I just don't understand is it the rom/writer drives the dell comes with that is the problem? Or the computer, or the operating system?
I got the dell thinking it would be high end and should be able to do this, because I know others are able to do it? I think I can still return it or are there things I could add to the computer to make it work

What is an NEC writer?

If I do rip in IFO mode, then what do you do with it?

Should I return or
On an outside topic, this is the first time I have Windows XP and my computer won't read from my digital camera, the HP website said XP won't read from camera's that have a high MB card!? how can that be!
I should of stayed with my old computer I think!
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Re: LVW-5005 Can't re-author or shrink on PC

I also had problems with my 5001 ands found the usual dvd-shrink etc did not work. However after trying a number of different things, I found that Cyberlink's Power Producer 2.0 enabled me to extract individual recordings (converting it to MPEG2 files). You can then re-author to DVD using any package e.g.nero recode, or Power Producer itself. Not the most elegant solution I know but it works.

If you don't want to do any re-authoring, a straight copy of the disk using Nero works.

I have a HP Pavilion PC with XP SP2, and a BTC IDE1008 burner.
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I downloaded a trial of nero, and a straight DVD to DVD copy won't work. It says there is a problem reading the disk. But the disk (made with my Liteon 5001) works fine playing in the computer and in all my dvd players.
I'll try your other solution, maybe that will work for me.
I tried to trouble shoot with Dell, thinking it was something with the computer, but to no avail. Thanks for your input.
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Hi, I have a Lite-on 5001 (similar in most respects) and I couldn't re-author either using dvd-shrink etc. I have been experimenting though and I have had some reasonable success with Nero Recode 2.

I found that if you try and copy just main title under the option to remake a DVD, you get usually get a disk read failure, or it complains a VOB is missing.

However, if you copy the entire DVD to hard disk using the "copy entire dvd option" this usually works (I have not tried enough to say if this always works). I found that you could then extract the main title from the hard disk version without any problems and recode thereafter. It seems that the hard disk copy is "cleaned up" in some way?

On my pc it always shows two copies of everything on the nero selection menus which is odd as there is only one copy on the disk of course. It is obvious to see which are the sam as the sizes are identical.
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Hi, I have a Lite-on 5001 (similar in most respects) and I couldn't re-author either using dvd-shrink etc. I have been experimenting though and I have had some reasonable success with Nero Recode 2.

I found that if you try and copy just main title under the option to remake a DVD, you get usually get a disk read failure, or it complains a VOB is missing.

However, if you copy the entire DVD to hard disk using the "copy entire dvd option" this usually works (I have not tried enough to say if this always works). I found that you could then extract the main title from the hard disk version without any problems and recode thereafter. It seems that the hard disk copy is "cleaned up" in some way?

On my pc it always shows two copies of everything on the nero selection menus which is odd as there is only one copy on the disk of course. It is obvious to see which are the sam as the sizes are identical.

the problem is that dvd shrink does not support dvd+vr mode which is the format that liteon record in use program like ulead dvd disc creator if you want to edit or re edtit the dvds.
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Re: LVW-5005 Can't re-author or shrink on PC

Thanks for your replys guys. I finally got my replacement 5005 after my failed flash fiasco (another post). The new one worked like crap, failing to finalize, bombing out in the middle of a burn and everything else bad that could happen. I took a chance and updated the firmware to 091 and now it seems to be more stable. What I am looking for is a straight copy, of movie only without menu. I do not want to re-compress the file or loose any quality and need to make multiple copys the way shrink can. any more sugestions appreciated.
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DVD-x does work, will rip the footage from the disc to av/mpeg1/svcd. This works on all the types of discs I have succesfully written to. BUT what is clear is that having succesfully written to a disc on a liteon doesnt mean that in the world outside of Liteon that its succesfully writen! If you find bad sectors ro read errors its 99% certain that its the type of disc.
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Are you guys saying, then, that you cannot use DVD Decrypter to burn movies copied on the Lite-on 5005 to a PC's HDD using unfinalized DVD+RW disks? I have burning documentaries and movies off of Satellite Cable onto a Sony DVD+RW disk. I can play it fine (video and Audio) on the DVR and on my PC’s Power DVD without having to finalize the disk. I burned the video onto my HDD using DVD Decrypter, but am not sure which mode I should burn it in—F, IFO, or ISO: three different online guides give three different modes; some people make it sound very easy! The last time I did it in IFO mode I received a pop-up menu which stated:

C:\DVDV_VR\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.BUP; Reason: Invaild IFO/BUP.

After copying the files into a VIDEO_TS folder another pop-up box states that the operation was successful and that 10 files were copied and none skipped, even though the decrypter logged noted 13 times that pack headers were not found in various sectors. After dome advice from another forum I tried it again in the ISO and I again received a pop-up menu which stated:
C:\DVDV_VR\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.BUP; Reason: Invaild IFO/BUP
followed by the "successful completion" box. But, I still could not open it up in my trial version of videoredo. I thought it might be a problem with the disk so I recorded a different show on a different +RW disk. It played great on my my LVW 5005 and Power DVD; but I had the very same problems.

The Bottom line: I cannot seem to be able to use DVD decrypter to burn +RW movies to the PC HDD and then open these files in my Videoredo (trial version) to edit the commercials out and reburn them onto DVD+R disks. I am not totally sure what mode to rip them on the hardrive and how/what to open to edit it. Maybe I need a fifferent DVD to HDD program and/or editing program. Any suggestions are welcomed, as I am new to all of this. Thanks
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Re: LVW-5005 Can't re-author or shrink on PC

Through trial and error, here's what I've been doing with DVD+RWs recorded with the 5005. It's inelegant but I've had consistant success. (the reader/writer on my computer is a NEC 1100A)

Rip disk with DVD decrypter in file mode ( CloneDVD works well, too) (this may take several attempts, keep trying)
Open the VIDEO_TS file with Nero Vision Express 3 in DVD-VIDEO mode (no vr), you can import the movie files and edit out the commercials, etc. (NVE3 is buggy, so save your project frequently) You make your own menus in NVE3. "Burn to file".

DVD shrink can read that file and now you can do what ever you want with it. I tend to make a ISO and then just burn that onto a +R (even Speedy CD will burn that ISO).

In any case, the results work on all my dvd players, even my Pioneer 563A.

So you end up using 3 or 4 programs, but you end up with what you want.

I hope this works for you.
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I have a Liteon 5001 & I just use TMPGENC Dvd Author to Re-author my 5001 recordings, to change menus or edit out adverts. It's an easy progrm to use as well. This program also alows you to change the audio stream to Dolby Digital 2.0 (if u have the optional ac3 plugin for it), as the 5001 uses mpeg surround 2.0 as standard, I personally prefer ac3
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Don't know what all the fuss is about. I use DVD2One and have no problem what-so-ever. I just put the disc in that has come out of the 5005 and direct it to the VIDEO_TS folder as the source and then choose a folder also called VIDEO_TS on my hard drive as the target. I run DVD2One to only copy the movie...enable whatever the audio is (says unknown audio) and don't click the subtitles. It takes the same length of time as it does on a regular DVD I back-up that's commercial. This works on 3 and 4 hour DVDs as well. What I typically do to get best quality is to record on my 5005 with the DVD-RW disc in 2 hour mode, then put this in my computer and do the process described above. If Whatever I'm recording takes more than 2 hours, I'll use a 2nd DVD-RW disc in the 5005 and enable the "join" feature in DVD2One. This is the best quality for the end result. After I'm all finished with the process, I'll burn an empty AUDIO_TS folder along with the full VIDEO_TS folder with RecordNow. Works every time...full movie without menu and still with the 5 minute incremented chapters! Remember that if you don't use DVD+RW discs in the 5005, you HAVE TO FINALIZE your disc before you can do anything with it in your computer.

Once I've finished with the DVD+RW discs, I erase and start over again.
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Don't you mean DVD+RW?

As far as I know, only DVD+RW don't required finalizing, all the others need them.
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Oops...yes, I'll edit my post. Thanks for pointing my typo out.
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