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scdbackup · 10-05-2005

Not using a GUI program for burning media, the
main reason for me to consider use of NeroLINUX
is the fact that it offers an own independend
way to write to the burner device.

Currently Linux lacks of alternatives for CD
burning. There is cdrecord which is maintained
by Joerg Schilling (who hates Linux) and
there are udftools which do not run on
unaltered kernels. (Although there are signs
that newer distributions allow to write directly
to CD-RW (and DVD+RW) via /dev/dvd without the
need for a special writer program.
Just like: cat image >/dev/dvd
That looks much like the work of udftools.)

An example from one of my users :
cdrecord on Linux does write ISO-images of up
to about 100 MB but refuses to even start a
write if the image is larger. The drive seems
to object some address info sent by cdrecord.
With Nero under Windows the drive works fine.
(Regrettably i got no feedback about wether
NeroLINUX would work for him. Probably he only
got an OEM version.)
For me and with my drive, cdrecord works
flawlessly. My luck.

With DVD the situation is a bit better.
We got growisofs, cdrecord-ProDVD, udftools
and even an unfriendly fork of cdrecord
named dvdrecord. In general, the compatibility
of media and burner devices is a big problem.
Buying DVD-RW seems to be pure gambling.

cdrecord-ProDVD got the disadvantage that it
does not allow to write streams to DVD if the
length of the stream is not known in advance.
(So i have to announce a generous estimation
and pad up the stream to that amount. Pffft.)

growisofs is the DVD program of choice right now
but regrettably Andy Polyakov (who is a really
good guy) seems not to have much time for
further work on it.
K3B's DVD capabilities are based on growisofs,
as far as i know.

I would like to encourage the programmers of
Nero to offer a way for non-interactive burning.
(It should accept arbitrary streams at stdin as
well as from a buffer file on disk. Not only
ISO9660 or .nrg .)
Another nice feature would be if NeroLINUX allowed
to create plain ISO images non-interactively, too.
That way we would get an alternative for program
mkisofs which is powerful but also quite a bitch.

Maybe one day we could see K3B running on top
of NeroLINUX.

10-05-2005	#12 (permalink)
scdbackup New on Forum Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2	Re: NeroLinux vs K3B Not using a GUI program for burning media, the main reason for me to consider use of NeroLINUX is the fact that it offers an own independend way to write to the burner device. Currently Linux lacks of alternatives for CD burning. There is cdrecord which is maintained by Joerg Schilling (who hates Linux) and there are udftools which do not run on unaltered kernels. (Although there are signs that newer distributions allow to write directly to CD-RW (and DVD+RW) via /dev/dvd without the need for a special writer program. Just like: cat image >/dev/dvd That looks much like the work of udftools.) An example from one of my users : cdrecord on Linux does write ISO-images of up to about 100 MB but refuses to even start a write if the image is larger. The drive seems to object some address info sent by cdrecord. With Nero under Windows the drive works fine. (Regrettably i got no feedback about wether NeroLINUX would work for him. Probably he only got an OEM version.) For me and with my drive, cdrecord works flawlessly. My luck. With DVD the situation is a bit better. We got growisofs, cdrecord-ProDVD, udftools and even an unfriendly fork of cdrecord named dvdrecord. In general, the compatibility of media and burner devices is a big problem. Buying DVD-RW seems to be pure gambling. cdrecord-ProDVD got the disadvantage that it does not allow to write streams to DVD if the length of the stream is not known in advance. (So i have to announce a generous estimation and pad up the stream to that amount. Pffft.) growisofs is the DVD program of choice right now but regrettably Andy Polyakov (who is a really good guy) seems not to have much time for further work on it. K3B's DVD capabilities are based on growisofs, as far as i know. I would like to encourage the programmers of Nero to offer a way for non-interactive burning. (It should accept arbitrary streams at stdin as well as from a buffer file on disk. Not only ISO9660 or .nrg .) Another nice feature would be if NeroLINUX allowed to create plain ISO images non-interactively, too. That way we would get an alternative for program mkisofs which is powerful but also quite a bitch. Maybe one day we could see K3B running on top of NeroLINUX.