Oh, sorry, I didn't really state my case... the REAL problem is, the very 1st spindle I got was 50 Ritek Ridata branded R03's sold BY NEWEGG as 8X media. It being my 1st DVD writer, (I ordered the 3500 at the same time), I foolishly went through almost all 50 at 8X wondering what the hell I was doing wrong. 50 costers, and I live in NY on well under a grand a month. Now, care to guess how pissed I am at Ritek for marketing disks they USED to claim were 4X max as 8X and wasting my time, and more importantly, a good chunk of my prescious little money? I could have eaten a few steaks instead of suffereing though freekin' mac and cheese like I did to be able to AFFORD that lame ass crap media. THAT'S why I simply will NOT buy anything wiht the Ritek name on it. Not that they give a rat's a$$ about loosing my couple bucks, it's just on principle.

Remeber the name... Joe, as in, an average Joe.... and Dirt, as in, As poor as......

JD