Then at what speed would you say it was burning if the lead in/lead out and everything in between took exactly 7 minutes and 2 seconds. This was for a full disc of the series Nip Tuck. I had to do some compression with DVD shrink and so you know it was a full disc. On other discs I have made it took less time because the movies didn't use the full capacity. It said 12x I just want to know if that is really what it was burning at. Maybe it was really burning at 10x based on that list of speeds to time you posted. It was definately under 8 minutes as the average 8x drive burns.