There was no offence intended by my last posting, just in case anybody from Korea or Taiwan feels upset...

I enjoy asian lanugages and in fact speak a reasonable amount of Thai and some Vietnamese having previously lived in both countries (a very different part of Asia, but I hope it shows my good intentions)

To be honest I suspect Anglophones like myself have never quite adjusted to the fact that electronic devices are no longer manufactured by companies with names like Pye, Ferguson, Bush (no relation), Grundig etc

Thanks for the background info Kenshin... interesting!