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helfrizzle · 26-08-2004

i somehow googled for "cd-bgm" and ended up finding this site:

http://www.icdia.org/

on it i found this:

"What is CD-BGM?
CD-BGM or CD-BackGround Music is a type of CD defined by Philips, Sanyo and Shinano-Kenshi in the mid 80s. Sometimes the system is being refered to as BMS (Background Music System). CD-BGM is used to store up to 10 hours of audio to use a background music in stores, shopping malls, etc. CD-BGM uses ADPCM level B mono audio to accomplish this. The music was stored in 8 tracks, all of which were devided in titles. Usually there were about 15 titles per track, resulting in about 120 songs per disc (about 8 hours). Although dedicated professional CD-BGM players were made available to play the discs (of which the Philips BMS 3000 was the most well-known), every CD-BGM disc also needs to include a CD-i application to allow for playback on a CD-i player.

It is not defined what features this application should include, as long it allows for the music to be reproduced on a CD-i player. This is why the early CD-BGM discs from Sanyo showed a screen devided in two halfs, with the upper half displaying 'start', and the lower half displaying 'stop'! Actually, these discs were the first commercially released discs for CD-i ever. Fortunately, Philips put some more attention to its CD-i application for CD-BGM. It show a list of all tracks that are available on the disc, which can then be selected for playback. Several hundreds of CD-BGM titles were made by Philips alone. Note: you cannot buy CD-BGM discs, they could only be 'rented' by professional users from selected Philips partners."

cd-i discs can't be used on a pc because its written using a differnt filesystem.

(for the computer geniuses: in personal computing the iso-9660 format and its joliet-variant are the most well known and widely used systems, but cd-i discs use the filesystem format that is based on cd-i's operating systems os-9... it allows for 28 character filenames)

if you just want to check out the contents of a disc, you can use the cd-i filesystem driver for win 95/98/me written by vahur sinijarv from estonia. cd-i discs can be accessed in a similar way as a cd-rom disc, using win explorer. basically.. you can still only view filenames. windows nt, 2000, and xp can use iso buster to extract audio and from a cd-i disc.

you'll get something similar to sergeville's post

lastly, i found a page of cd-i authoring software:

http://www.icdia.org/sw_pc/authoringtools.html

"...you will find some utilities and applications to author your own CD-i titles on a PC. These tools are especially designed for CD-i developers. Note that some of these tools are 16-bit Windows 3.x applications which will sometimes work fine in Windows 95/98/NT/2000, but lack the use of long file names."

of the authoring tools at the above link.. if i'm right, only HAL90 1.5.2 can create music cd-i's or cd-bgm's as used by the cd-i standalone players....

anybody here know how to use hal90? or feel like looking into using it?

.:: {H} {E} {L} {F} {R} {I} {Z} {Z} {L} {E} ::.

26-08-2004	#26 (permalink)
helfrizzle New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1	Re: What's Muzak's CD Protection!? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> i somehow googled for "cd-bgm" and ended up finding this site: http://www.icdia.org/ on it i found this: "What is CD-BGM? CD-BGM or CD-BackGround Music is a type of CD defined by Philips, Sanyo and Shinano-Kenshi in the mid 80s. Sometimes the system is being refered to as BMS (Background Music System). CD-BGM is used to store up to 10 hours of audio to use a background music in stores, shopping malls, etc. CD-BGM uses ADPCM level B mono audio to accomplish this. The music was stored in 8 tracks, all of which were devided in titles. Usually there were about 15 titles per track, resulting in about 120 songs per disc (about 8 hours). Although dedicated professional CD-BGM players were made available to play the discs (of which the Philips BMS 3000 was the most well-known), every CD-BGM disc also needs to include a CD-i application to allow for playback on a CD-i player. It is not defined what features this application should include, as long it allows for the music to be reproduced on a CD-i player. This is why the early CD-BGM discs from Sanyo showed a screen devided in two halfs, with the upper half displaying 'start', and the lower half displaying 'stop'! Actually, these discs were the first commercially released discs for CD-i ever. Fortunately, Philips put some more attention to its CD-i application for CD-BGM. It show a list of all tracks that are available on the disc, which can then be selected for playback. Several hundreds of CD-BGM titles were made by Philips alone. Note: you cannot buy CD-BGM discs, they could only be 'rented' by professional users from selected Philips partners." cd-i discs can't be used on a pc because its written using a differnt filesystem. (for the computer geniuses: in personal computing the iso-9660 format and its joliet-variant are the most well known and widely used systems, but cd-i discs use the filesystem format that is based on cd-i's operating systems os-9... it allows for 28 character filenames) if you just want to check out the contents of a disc, you can use the cd-i filesystem driver for win 95/98/me written by vahur sinijarv from estonia. cd-i discs can be accessed in a similar way as a cd-rom disc, using win explorer. basically.. you can still only view filenames. windows nt, 2000, and xp can use iso buster to extract audio and from a cd-i disc. you'll get something similar to sergeville's post lastly, i found a page of cd-i authoring software: http://www.icdia.org/sw_pc/authoringtools.html "...you will find some utilities and applications to author your own CD-i titles on a PC. These tools are especially designed for CD-i developers. Note that some of these tools are 16-bit Windows 3.x applications which will sometimes work fine in Windows 95/98/NT/2000, but lack the use of long file names." of the authoring tools at the above link.. if i'm right, only HAL90 1.5.2 can create music cd-i's or cd-bgm's as used by the cd-i standalone players.... anybody here know how to use hal90? or feel like looking into using it? .:: {H} {E} {L} {F} {R} {I} {Z} {Z} {L} {E} ::.