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ScubaPete · 30-04-2004

Hi there Heimdall,

To answer your questions in order let’s start out with the question about the file. Just like when you make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, you need a place to do your work, a table or a counter. A DVD backup needs to use your HD. You can’t toss the sandwich makings in the air and pick what you need then toss it back in the air, you MUST have a workspace. When you backup a DVD you MUST use your HD to work on. After you’re finished you can clean the files from your HD, the same as cleaning the table after the ingredients are put away. The only time you can copy from disc to disc is when you are making a copy from a copy.

When attempting to burn, Nero will ask for a drive. It doesn’t know that one drive is a DVD ROM and one is a CD burner and one is a virtual drive until it attempts to write - Then you’ll find out soon enough

)

It has been my experience that bundled software, especially the stuff that comes with a drive is tied to that drive. When I suggested the Nero 5.5 version please understand that it works hand-in-hand with DVD Shrink but so does DVD Decrypter (FREE). I am speaking of the newest version of DVD Shrink, ver. 3.1.7. To save some cash you might want to try the free stuff first. The major difference is that when you are using DVD Decrypter you will be burning in the ISO (image) mode as opposed to using Nero, which burns your more familiar VIDEO_TS folder with your IFO, BUP and VOB files.

Not to get you corn-fused, I’ll just supply you with a guide (and links for the most up-to-date programs) for the DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter recipe.

Hi equate,

I’m sorry to tell you but Yes, you need a DVD burner. You might want to consider a DVD burner as the price has gone way, way down. You could even look at ebay for a used 2.4X dual format DVD burner.
A DVD ROM is for watching DVD’s only BUT because you have it there is plenty you can do. If you have the new Nero package (ver. 6) in Nero Classic, New Compilation window, you can find under CD, a program called mini-DVD. This neat little program can take the VOB files straight from DVD Shrink and burn them into a CD. Excellent picture quality, hard to tell the difference between the original and a backup done in the “Movie only method” (using DVD Shrink in the re-Author mode). Also, if you have the full boat Nero, you could use either DVD43 or DVD Decrypter in the “File” mode to rip your DVD and then use Nero’s recode2 to process your backup then burn to your CD using mini-DVD, wonderful choices all.

You can also use the following guide to process a DVD backup, just at the end, you’ll be using Nero’s mini-DVD to burn to your CD.

Ok, here’s your guide for using DVD Shrink and then DVD Decrypter to burn - WORD OF CAUTION, YOU’LL NEED TO USE “ISO BUSTER” IF YOU’RE RUNNING FAT32.

First, you should create a folder for your DVD backup before hand. This is the place on your HD where DVD Shrink will work on your movie. Try to put it someplace where you won’t forget it - i.e. C:/All DVD work/Matrix Revolution.

Now fire up DVD Decrypter - and under “Mode”, select “ISO” then “Write” - under “Source” you may leave that blank as DVD Decrypter will find the location that DVD Shrink will put your ISO files in all by itself. Select your “Destination” as your Burner - and make sure that the box that says “verify” is un-ticked (This last one will cut down on DVD Decrypter errors). OK, feel free to close DVD Decrypter now because when DVD Shrink is finished it will open DVD Decrypter all by itself.
Now you can place your original DVD in your DVD-ROM drive and a DVD blank in your burner’s drive (If you have two drives). As for your DVD media, after all my efforts it had better be Ritek G04, Verbatim or any media boasting “Advanced AZO Dye. All other media could very well be the cause errors, only the very best media should be used for DVD Video backups. Remember that RW discs will probably not play in standalone players. Now is defiantly not the time to put your crappy cheap stuff in - )

Now go into DVD Shrink, click “Edit”, then click “Preferences” on this page we’re going to select “DVD Target Size” as “Custom” and set the size as “4360MB” - we do this to make extremely sure that our disc isn’t too large. Then, under the “File I/O” tab un-tick “Enable burning with Nero” then click “OK”.

Now let’s burn a DVD. Click “Open Disk” and analyze your DVD in the usual manner, if you wish, do your editing (or re-Authoring) and do your custom compressing or, if you want a total backup, just let the “Automatic” settings alone.THEN when time comes, select “Backup”. Take just a second and under “Target Device” go to “Select target device” once there, select “ISO Disc Image”. NEXT,]IMPORTANT, tick the “Launch DVD Decrypter to burn the output image” box. Finally, where it says “Select target image file”, browse till you find your created folder for your backup and click “Save”, That’s it ! Click “OK” and DVD Shrink burns that ISO image right to your folder, then it starts DVD Decrypter to also burn your ISO files to your waiting disc.

And I KNOW you aren’t going anywhere near that PC while it’s working cause you don’t want me a-smackin your knuckles with my Nun’s ruler do ya ? Yea, I thought not. - Screwin’ up the burn this late in the game would absolutely TICK old ScubaPete off, causing me to choke on my fine finny fish dinner -

Now tell me, - - - Wasn’t that finer than frog hair ? Slicker than a southern slimy slithery sloth ? Yep, ya see there, I thought you’d say that -

cheers all,

Pete

(Get your DVD Shrink’s newest version here - )
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...dvd_shrink.cfm
Shrink Guide - you might want to look at this sometime -
http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/dvd_shrink_3.htm

(Get your DVD Decrypter’s newest version here - )
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi..._decrypter.cfm

30-04-2004	#105 (permalink)
ScubaPete CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: USA Posts: 32	Hi there Heimdall, To answer your questions in order let’s start out with the question about the file. Just like when you make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, you need a place to do your work, a table or a counter. A DVD backup needs to use your HD. You can’t toss the sandwich makings in the air and pick what you need then toss it back in the air, you MUST have a workspace. When you backup a DVD you MUST use your HD to work on. After you’re finished you can clean the files from your HD, the same as cleaning the table after the ingredients are put away. The only time you can copy from disc to disc is when you are making a copy from a copy. When attempting to burn, Nero will ask for a drive. It doesn’t know that one drive is a DVD ROM and one is a CD burner and one is a virtual drive until it attempts to write - Then you’ll find out soon enough ) It has been my experience that bundled software, especially the stuff that comes with a drive is tied to that drive. When I suggested the Nero 5.5 version please understand that it works hand-in-hand with DVD Shrink but so does DVD Decrypter (FREE). I am speaking of the newest version of DVD Shrink, ver. 3.1.7. To save some cash you might want to try the free stuff first. The major difference is that when you are using DVD Decrypter you will be burning in the ISO (image) mode as opposed to using Nero, which burns your more familiar VIDEO_TS folder with your IFO, BUP and VOB files. Not to get you corn-fused, I’ll just supply you with a guide (and links for the most up-to-date programs) for the DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter recipe. Hi equate, I’m sorry to tell you but Yes, you need a DVD burner. You might want to consider a DVD burner as the price has gone way, way down. You could even look at ebay for a used 2.4X dual format DVD burner. A DVD ROM is for watching DVD’s only BUT because you have it there is plenty you can do. If you have the new Nero package (ver. 6) in Nero Classic, New Compilation window, you can find under CD, a program called mini-DVD. This neat little program can take the VOB files straight from DVD Shrink and burn them into a CD. Excellent picture quality, hard to tell the difference between the original and a backup done in the “Movie only method” (using DVD Shrink in the re-Author mode). Also, if you have the full boat Nero, you could use either DVD43 or DVD Decrypter in the “File” mode to rip your DVD and then use Nero’s recode2 to process your backup then burn to your CD using mini-DVD, wonderful choices all. You can also use the following guide to process a DVD backup, just at the end, you’ll be using Nero’s mini-DVD to burn to your CD. Ok, here’s your guide for using DVD Shrink and then DVD Decrypter to burn - WORD OF CAUTION, YOU’LL NEED TO USE “ISO BUSTER” IF YOU’RE RUNNING FAT32. First, you should create a folder for your DVD backup before hand. This is the place on your HD where DVD Shrink will work on your movie. Try to put it someplace where you won’t forget it - i.e. C:/All DVD work/Matrix Revolution. Now fire up DVD Decrypter - and under “Mode”, select “ISO” then “Write” - under “Source” you may leave that blank as DVD Decrypter will find the location that DVD Shrink will put your ISO files in all by itself. Select your “Destination” as your Burner - and make sure that the box that says “verify” is un-ticked (This last one will cut down on DVD Decrypter errors). OK, feel free to close DVD Decrypter now because when DVD Shrink is finished it will open DVD Decrypter all by itself. Now you can place your original DVD in your DVD-ROM drive and a DVD blank in your burner’s drive (If you have two drives). As for your DVD media, after all my efforts it had better be Ritek G04, Verbatim or any media boasting “Advanced AZO Dye. All other media could very well be the cause errors, only the very best media should be used for DVD Video backups. Remember that RW discs will probably not play in standalone players. Now is defiantly not the time to put your crappy cheap stuff in - ) Now go into DVD Shrink, click “Edit”, then click “Preferences” on this page we’re going to select “DVD Target Size” as “Custom” and set the size as “4360MB” - we do this to make extremely sure that our disc isn’t too large. Then, under the “File I/O” tab un-tick “Enable burning with Nero” then click “OK”. Now let’s burn a DVD. Click “Open Disk” and analyze your DVD in the usual manner, if you wish, do your editing (or re-Authoring) and do your custom compressing or, if you want a total backup, just let the “Automatic” settings alone.THEN when time comes, select “Backup”. Take just a second and under “Target Device” go to “Select target device” once there, select “ISO Disc Image”. NEXT,]IMPORTANT, tick the “Launch DVD Decrypter to burn the output image” box. Finally, where it says “Select target image file”, browse till you find your created folder for your backup and click “Save”, That’s it ! Click “OK” and DVD Shrink burns that ISO image right to your folder, then it starts DVD Decrypter to also burn your ISO files to your waiting disc. And I KNOW you aren’t going anywhere near that PC while it’s working cause you don’t want me a-smackin your knuckles with my Nun’s ruler do ya ? Yea, I thought not. - Screwin’ up the burn this late in the game would absolutely TICK old ScubaPete off, causing me to choke on my fine finny fish dinner - Now tell me, - - - Wasn’t that finer than frog hair ? Slicker than a southern slimy slithery sloth ? Yep, ya see there, I thought you’d say that - cheers all, Pete (Get your DVD Shrink’s newest version here - ) http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...dvd_shrink.cfm Shrink Guide - you might want to look at this sometime - http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/dvd_shrink_3.htm (Get your DVD Decrypter’s newest version here - ) http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi..._decrypter.cfm __________________ The “old man” Pete (ö¿ô) Pent 4 CPU 2.80GHz, 1024MB RAM. 740GB HD, 4 Drives, BenG 1625, Pioneer 109 & 107, NEC 1300A GeForce4 Ti 4200-128MB, OS– XP sp2.