let us say i am not worried about the media being good in like, say, 84 years from now. all the media i have used has lasted me a couple years. the verbatim thing is great. but i will buy these and check them out. if they burn fine. more power to me. guess i am one of the few that is not worried about 50 years from now if the media will hold out. thanks for all the info tho. hmm.