Yea maybe that is it but cant be burn speed. Am burning at 4x. And thing is some dvds have no problems but other new dvds will not work correctly, they burn fine rip fine. Plays the preview movies but once I get to dvd menu and try to play, some will lock up at that point, specially this movie. Suppose could be brand I use, just standard Office Depot 16x DVD+R but really this should not matter. Copied many before, its just those few that have problems when they have special copy protection am guessing. Any sugguestion, any dvd copy program that works better? I never had luck with dvd shrink or dvd decrypter for these either.