I'm a little slow I guess. I happen to have two sony dvd-r/rw so I can quick copy disc to disc. Anyway I got the idea and I inserted Catch & Release in my newer dvd burner(it's newer and yet my older one works better so I'm use to only using it)and dvdshrink did it's first analize without fail and dvdfab didn't seem to error when I went to main movie and selected title 14 where it errored before so I may have just solved my own problem. I dont know, I'm about to put dvdshrink to the test.