I think people get confused when talking about cheap media when they need to refer to quality instead of price. 1st class media is highest quality, but can be found at lower prices than 2nd class. Verbatim and TY are both 1st class media. Memorex is 2nd class at best, but can be lower class because Memorex does not make any media, they rebadge other media. TY is the only brand that makes their own media and also sell to other brands. TY has a premium line and a value line, both can be purchased in bulk for 23 cents up even premium line for 25 cents. Verbatim has standards and more quality control on the media that they buy.