Club CDFreaks - Knowledge is Power - View Single Post - LH-20AP1 Problems with Verbatim MCC003 at 8X

rcubedcuber · 15-05-2007

cd pirate and Cressida, thanks for the inputs.

After a little more research I did determine that the omnipatcher has been messed up by LiteOn's scrambling efforts. Also I misinterpreted the opening screen of the firmware update stating the software was only for the LH-20A1P as indicating that it couldn't find a LH-20A1P drive. If I continue the update appears to take place. I've only overlayed the KL0A with the KL0A as a reflash check. Based on the problems with the RWs and the KL0G flash I don't know if I'll go back to the KL0G version. If I do I can always burn the RWs on my Plex 716SA.

I tried sonme burns with smart burn enabled (I think). The interface with LiteOn's tool is a little confusing see included PNG. The top screen capture is the default. There appears to be a disconnect between the button "Enable SmartBurn" and the bottom line of the tree "SmartBurn Function is Disabled - No" and the bottom screen capture where button "Disable SmartBurn" and the bottom line of the tree "SmartBurn Function is Disabled - Yes". Any clarification would be appreciated.

In the 1st case if the SmartBurn Function is not disabled, then why does the button say "Enable SmartBurn". The info in the second case also appears inverted. Or is this in some convoluted way saying external software does, or does not have control? Any clarification would be appreciated. I've done some searching for clearer explanations of how and what to do to change the settings and haven't found any. LIteOn's manual leaves a lot to be desired. However one can't beat the price probably why the manual is not too complete.

The burns shown in the original post were done with the 1st case - with what I am assuming is SmartBurn disabled (Case 1). I have since done two burns with the 2nd case (enabled?), and the really bad broad peeks were gone, but based on the numbers of POs and PIs I would not consider the burns good ones. The attached PNGs are for second case. I did one at 6X (1st one) and one at 8X (2nd one). Of course the 8X burn could have been one of the lucky ones, but based on the quality % (43) I doubt it. The few cases where an 8X burn with the 1st setting went ok, it looked a lot like a good 6X burn except for a brief PO peak of about 200 at the 1.1G point of the scan.

I think I concur to use the 6x burn. For some reason the drive doesn't like this media at 8X. I don't mind waiting the little extra time for the burn to complete. A quality burn is more important to me than a fast burn time.

I still have about 75 to 80 of the 8X Verbatim disks left. If I were to consider additional Verbatims would a better choice be the MCC004 media burned at 8X. The samples shown in the burn forum appear to be reasonable when done at 8x. I normally burn TYs +R 8Xs and just thought I'd give the Verbatim's a go based on most peoples opinion of them. However based on my burns the for 8X media at 8X burns I don't share that opinion. I till have about 150 TY +R in my stock, and will probably stick with the TYs. I doubt I'll try the +R 8X Verbatims again. Also in this batch of 8X's I found a lot of surface scratches and one case of bad dye with a triangular dark area about 1/4 inch on the outside of one disk - really bad burn even at 6X. Didn't notice it until after the burn and the really bad scan. I consider it really bad quality control. BTW the package was labeled Made in Taiwan. I've never seen that kind of defect or scratch problems with the TYs.

At least the burn I did for the Verbatim DLs at 4x (also previously posted) looked pretty good. That media appears ok.

My main concern was that this was not an isolated case with just my burner, and/or possibly a bad batch of Verbatims call it a sanity check, that's why I asked if other people had the problem.

Thanks again for the inputs, and any additional help about how to interpret the extra features settings.

Rcubed

15-05-2007	#5 (permalink)
rcubedcuber CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 72	Re: LH-20AP1 Problems with Verbatim MCC003 at 8X cd pirate and Cressida, thanks for the inputs. After a little more research I did determine that the omnipatcher has been messed up by LiteOn's scrambling efforts. Also I misinterpreted the opening screen of the firmware update stating the software was only for the LH-20A1P as indicating that it couldn't find a LH-20A1P drive. If I continue the update appears to take place. I've only overlayed the KL0A with the KL0A as a reflash check. Based on the problems with the RWs and the KL0G flash I don't know if I'll go back to the KL0G version. If I do I can always burn the RWs on my Plex 716SA. I tried sonme burns with smart burn enabled (I think). The interface with LiteOn's tool is a little confusing see included PNG. The top screen capture is the default. There appears to be a disconnect between the button "Enable SmartBurn" and the bottom line of the tree "SmartBurn Function is Disabled - No" and the bottom screen capture where button "Disable SmartBurn" and the bottom line of the tree "SmartBurn Function is Disabled - Yes". Any clarification would be appreciated. In the 1st case if the SmartBurn Function is not disabled, then why does the button say "Enable SmartBurn". The info in the second case also appears inverted. Or is this in some convoluted way saying external software does, or does not have control? Any clarification would be appreciated. I've done some searching for clearer explanations of how and what to do to change the settings and haven't found any. LIteOn's manual leaves a lot to be desired. However one can't beat the price probably why the manual is not too complete. The burns shown in the original post were done with the 1st case - with what I am assuming is SmartBurn disabled (Case 1). I have since done two burns with the 2nd case (enabled?), and the really bad broad peeks were gone, but based on the numbers of POs and PIs I would not consider the burns good ones. The attached PNGs are for second case. I did one at 6X (1st one) and one at 8X (2nd one). Of course the 8X burn could have been one of the lucky ones, but based on the quality % (43) I doubt it. The few cases where an 8X burn with the 1st setting went ok, it looked a lot like a good 6X burn except for a brief PO peak of about 200 at the 1.1G point of the scan. I think I concur to use the 6x burn. For some reason the drive doesn't like this media at 8X. I don't mind waiting the little extra time for the burn to complete. A quality burn is more important to me than a fast burn time. I still have about 75 to 80 of the 8X Verbatim disks left. If I were to consider additional Verbatims would a better choice be the MCC004 media burned at 8X. The samples shown in the burn forum appear to be reasonable when done at 8x. I normally burn TYs +R 8Xs and just thought I'd give the Verbatim's a go based on most peoples opinion of them. However based on my burns the for 8X media at 8X burns I don't share that opinion. I till have about 150 TY +R in my stock, and will probably stick with the TYs. I doubt I'll try the +R 8X Verbatims again. Also in this batch of 8X's I found a lot of surface scratches and one case of bad dye with a triangular dark area about 1/4 inch on the outside of one disk - really bad burn even at 6X. Didn't notice it until after the burn and the really bad scan. I consider it really bad quality control. BTW the package was labeled Made in Taiwan. I've never seen that kind of defect or scratch problems with the TYs. At least the burn I did for the Verbatim DLs at 4x (also previously posted) looked pretty good. That media appears ok. My main concern was that this was not an isolated case with just my burner, and/or possibly a bad batch of Verbatims call it a sanity check, that's why I asked if other people had the problem. Thanks again for the inputs, and any additional help about how to interpret the extra features settings. Rcubed Last edited by rcubedcuber; 27-11-2007 at 13:52.