Wow, what an interesting post. First off, Tru handled a few of your complaints quite well. To see the reason they separated AnyDVD from CloneDVD and CloneCD, you need only look at DVDXCopy and what happened to them. Anyone who owns CloneDVD and AnyDVD have no complaints at all as it's a very elegant solution. Also, I'm not sure I follow your "problem" with CloneDVD...it can produce a copy of a DVD with no problem when used in combination with AnyDVD. And it doesn't require that you rip it to the hard drive first. The only thing CloneDVD can't do is preserve the original layer break information. So? If you really want that, use CloneCD in combination with AnyDVD and you'll get a flawless backup with original layer break information. Again, I don't really see the point of your post or the issues you appear to have with Slysoft's products. They never said CloneDVD works on protected discs as far as I'm aware. Maybe I'm confused and don't understand what you're trying to get at...