NOW AS I READ AROUND THE SITES EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE "NEW" SECURE ROM. I MAKE A GOOD COPY 1 OUT OF 6 TIMES. BUT NASCAR 4 IS GIVING ME FITS! I HATE TO GIVE IN AND ASK FOR HELP BUT HAS ANYONE HAVE THE CORRECT SETTINGS FOR CLONE CD. THE PART I ENJOY IS DEFEATING THE PROTECTIONS. BUT AFTER 28 NON WORKING ATTEMPTS, USING EVERY COMBINATION I CAN THINK OF. INEED HELP. THANKS.