agree, however will say, found that this title backed up using main movie/express(2970)- playback had some strange artifacts I think related to copy protection....nothing major, just some subtle light flashing (like macrovision used to do), and some pixelation in darker scenes. Backup completly watchable, but these were still present at times....I forget the quality, although don't remember being that low of figure when ripped.....usual burn process, TY disc, ect - so feel title related. Really would like to try same with anydvd to decrypt, and another compressor/ripper...is dvdshrink still viable, or something else for a compressed SL rip? thanks