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EyeForOne · 29-08-2005

I tend to disagree with IE supporters (hello there Nem), in general, for many reasons - some have been mentioned already (I think I jumped a few pages in the middle of this lengthy thread)...but

I visited the Liteon link to see what's going on - and

* Mozilla 1.6 has no problem rendering the page (Javascript and Java is OFF)

* Notice that the default Character Encoding is "Big5" (Chinese) - this is likely the issue you guys are having.

*edit
ooops - spoke too soon - I see Nem originally stated he can NOT D/L from the page - and he is correct - I can't either using Moz/FF...I notice it's an .ASP page - that may have something to do with it, and I don't know enough about html coding to figure out what else is actually wrong
/*edit

I originally went to view the source to check out whether the blocked ad on top right was stopping the rest of the page from loading (like a prerequisite Object or Frame)

...ergo - another reason to like alternate browsers
see; http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...lipboard01.png
mucho info about the page can be found out easily..

In general - for me;
* Mozilla / Firefox = Beta (still many things that I dislike about the interface)
* Opera ? Dunno = Beta Female perhaps

* IE = Omega

remember IE also has full OS support behind it, and most of it's components are loaded at system startup (DLLs,etc)....but I used to use IE with no issues whatsoever, other than the ms's own built-in spyware issues. I stopped using it sometime soon after IE6 was released, but was already quite familiar with it since IE4.

Power Users (the term I use for anyone who tweaks often and likes it

) should have no issues buttoning down and using IE (as I have in the past, with no malware, no viruses, no infections etc) -

As I see it - the major problems used to stem from all the "casual" (oh...look - a computer - let's surf the web) users, who have had to deal with IE before the 272MB

SP2 patch...ms has been playing their hand all along (and most buy into the hype) - doing just the minimum necessary patching over many years - to keep the average joe/jane from being too scared to press the PowerOn button.

btw - I don't use 2K/XP regularly at all - and I likely never will - but I do know quite a bit about them (as Nem can attest to)

The International Character exploits have long been fixed in Moz/FF , since it was first learned of - it was a swift, fast, small, and easy fix - unlike most ms fixes, that linger for years before they're attended to....but that doesn't mean those who are savvy, can't use IE reliably, nor should they change if they are happy with it. It's the NEW users that have no clue, that continue to allow the proliferation of nasties ...and NEW systems that should have alternative browser/s as a choice IMO, such as when Netscape 4.06 and IE4 were bundled together (but that's when the Java VM peaked as a real proprietary mess)

I wasn't going to post at all - but that Chinese "BIG5" Character Encoding was glaringly obvious, I thought I'd mention it.

29-08-2005	#121 (permalink)
EyeForOne CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 3rd Stone Posts: 336	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer I tend to disagree with IE supporters (hello there Nem), in general, for many reasons - some have been mentioned already (I think I jumped a few pages in the middle of this lengthy thread)...but I visited the Liteon link to see what's going on - and * Mozilla 1.6 has no problem rendering the page (Javascript and Java is OFF) * Notice that the default Character Encoding is "Big5" (Chinese) - this is likely the issue you guys are having. edit ooops - spoke too soon - I see Nem originally stated he can NOT D/L from the page - and he is correct - I can't either using Moz/FF...I notice it's an .ASP page - that may have something to do with it, and I don't know enough about html coding to figure out what else is actually wrong /edit I originally went to view the source to check out whether the blocked ad on top right was stopping the rest of the page from loading (like a prerequisite Object or Frame) ...ergo - another reason to like alternate browsers see; http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...lipboard01.png mucho info about the page can be found out easily.. In general - for me; * Mozilla / Firefox = Beta (still many things that I dislike about the interface) * Opera ? Dunno = Beta Female perhaps * IE = Omega remember IE also has full OS support behind it, and most of it's components are loaded at system startup (DLLs,etc)....but I used to use IE with no issues whatsoever, other than the ms's own built-in spyware issues. I stopped using it sometime soon after IE6 was released, but was already quite familiar with it since IE4. Power Users (the term I use for anyone who tweaks often and likes it ) should have no issues buttoning down and using IE (as I have in the past, with no malware, no viruses, no infections etc) - As I see it - the major problems used to stem from all the "casual" (oh...look - a computer - let's surf the web) users, who have had to deal with IE before the 272MB SP2 patch...ms has been playing their hand all along (and most buy into the hype) - doing just the minimum necessary patching over many years - to keep the average joe/jane from being too scared to press the PowerOn button. btw - I don't use 2K/XP regularly at all - and I likely never will - but I do know quite a bit about them (as Nem can attest to) The International Character exploits have long been fixed in Moz/FF , since it was first learned of - it was a swift, fast, small, and easy fix - unlike most ms fixes, that linger for years before they're attended to....but that doesn't mean those who are savvy, can't use IE reliably, nor should they change if they are happy with it. It's the NEW users that have no clue, that continue to allow the proliferation of nasties ...and NEW systems that should have alternative browser/s as a choice IMO, such as when Netscape 4.06 and IE4 were bundled together (but that's when the Java VM peaked as a real proprietary mess) I wasn't going to post at all - but that Chinese "BIG5" Character Encoding was glaringly obvious, I thought I'd mention it.