well, the wonderful thing is that no matter how hard the music industry tries, no matter how hard microsoft or napster try, there will alway be some computer geek out there that can beat the system. Its beautiful. I just hope that someone comes up with an other than real time converter sometime soon, and i hope that it stays in the underground world of us computer geeks. because napster can patch. So, if youre someone who has made a program, or youve found a program that for sure works, pass it to us in email or pm. Becaus if you post it openly on the forum, chances are that napster will get their @#$@#$ grredy hands on it and patch it. DOWN WITH THE !#@$@#$ DRM