i've used over 500 of these 'Value Line' TY's and yet to run into a bad burn or disc , writing at 8x with them the error scans come out stellar burnt on my nec 3500ag

hopefully some value line discs come out for 8x media so we can burn those at 12x on certain burners. i assume all of taiyo's presses have to come to the end of their longevity and they know they can press alot more out though but sell them at a discount..fine by me, they seem to be of better quality than any taiwan, malaysia, india, or singapore made media out there

..i've had 1 pk sold under the pretense they were 4x 01's that ended up being TY 8x 002's and they all burnt at 12x (thanks supermediastore)